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Silicon valley might have been an American creation, but it has thrived due to immigrant founders. Please don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
by palakchokshi 9y ago
Silicon valley might have been an American creation, but it has thrived due to immigrant founders. Please don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
- marnett 9y agopermanent resident immigrants are Americans.
- haydenlee 9y agoIsn't a permanent resident immigrant somebody who has a green card? Surely to be considered American you need to be a citizen, which is separate from a green card. I'm not american so very open to being wrong on this.
- DrScump 9y agoThe title at the top of every "green card" is "Resident Alien".
- DrJokepu 9y agoThis hasn’t been true for a very long time (1997). I-551 Permanent Resident Cards issued since 2010 are labelled as “United States of America / Permanent Resident”, the word “alien” is not present on the document at all.
- DrScump 9y agoSorry. I haven't seen one in years. It had been the case for decades.
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago> permanent resident immigrants are Americans They're also immigrants. We're debating curbs on immigration. If those curbs continue to be implemented, people like those immigrants will not be future Americans.
- dragonwriter 9y agoLegally, they are not; naturalized citizens are Americans, permanent resident aliens remain aliens. There's certainly an argument to be made that they concept of a “permanent resident alien” is a an elaborate circumlocution for “disenfranchized citizen”, and that permanent residence and citizenship ought to be intrinsically linked (not saying I necessarily agree, but I've certainly seen a reasonable argument made), but there is a difference between ought to be and is.
- yahna 9y agoThat's just a green card. It's far from citizenship.
- DrJokepu 9y agoIn the American immigration system, permantent resident status is the final step before citizenship and permanent residents enjoy almost entirely the same rights as citizens, with a few notable exceptions. They’re absolutely not the same thing but permanent residence is not far from citizenship at all, permanent residents are effectively candidates for citizenship.