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I am surprised you think that uprooting your entire living and moving to a different country is that easy: I mean do you do that for convenience sake even insid

by SubuSS 9y ago

I am surprised you think that uprooting your entire living and moving to a different country is that easy: I mean do you do that for convenience sake even inside the USA? These are people (including me) who come in here and build a bunch of local connections. Turning it personal, Our kids go to school here. I own a house here. I have a ton of friends here. I pay taxes and donate/volunteer when I can. I ride bicycles everywhere if that matters. (No I am not blue/democrat because I can't vote :). You are also touching on other issues like visa hostages. Most of those people who feel that they are in a 'hostage' scenario can go back anytime they want but most of them choose to stay. I say most because there are definitely a few who can't but whatever. In my case, I could've stayed back in India and worked for similar companies (Both my prior companies have a big presence there), but here is where I want to be. Now you can say me being here ONLY benefits my employer or elites, but I definitely don't think of that way: I think of it as an incredible opportunity and like any other big-system process, it has its troubles. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

maga2020 9y ago
The question I have for you is: once you "make it" (if you're a homeowner, perhaps you already have) will you go through the hassle and expense of becoming a US citizen, even if that means giving up your Indian passport? If the answer is "yes", thank you and welcome to the greatest country the world has ever seen. May you continue to have great success and happiness. If the answer is "no", in my view you are enjoying the material wealth of this country without being willing to pledge allegiance to her or make even a symbolic sacrifice for what our society has made possible for you. That's what's sad and (in my opinion) immoral.
- SubuSS 9y ago
  Haha the reality is that the reverse is the problem: Look at the green card backlog for various of these countries. IOW, most people like me WANT to be a permanent resident/citizen but the system has been keeping us waiting for years (In my case about 7. Without any legislation changes, Looking at another 10-15 before I can be a citizen).
- jitix 9y ago
  > will you go through the hassle and expense of becoming a US citizen, even if that means giving up your Indian passport? In my experience the most common answer to that would be "Yes". There's a small percentage of people who do move across continents for a short time but most come here to settle down. Now the problem is that with the current visa laws it takes anything between 8-15 years to become a citizen (unless you are exceptional enough to get EB1). This is more complicated than the work visas issued in EU, UK, Australia, etc. which have a much shorter period for transitioning from work visa holder to permanent resident status. This is probably one of the reasons that people who move to the US don't settle down so fast because there's always the risk of being kicked out. Most people I know only go through the whole "settle down" process after they get the green card.

by SubuSS 9y ago

maga2020 9y ago

The question I have for you is: once you "make it" (if you're a homeowner, perhaps you already have) will you go through the hassle and expense of becoming a US citizen, even if that means giving up your Indian passport? If the answer is "yes", thank you and welcome to the greatest country the world has ever seen. May you continue to have great success and happiness. If the answer is "no", in my view you are enjoying the material wealth of this country without being willing to pledge allegiance to her or make even a symbolic sacrifice for what our society has made possible for you. That's what's sad and (in my opinion) immoral.

SubuSS 9y ago
Haha the reality is that the reverse is the problem: Look at the green card backlog for various of these countries. IOW, most people like me WANT to be a permanent resident/citizen but the system has been keeping us waiting for years (In my case about 7. Without any legislation changes, Looking at another 10-15 before I can be a citizen).
jitix 9y ago
> will you go through the hassle and expense of becoming a US citizen, even if that means giving up your Indian passport? In my experience the most common answer to that would be "Yes". There's a small percentage of people who do move across continents for a short time but most come here to settle down. Now the problem is that with the current visa laws it takes anything between 8-15 years to become a citizen (unless you are exceptional enough to get EB1). This is more complicated than the work visas issued in EU, UK, Australia, etc. which have a much shorter period for transitioning from work visa holder to permanent resident status. This is probably one of the reasons that people who move to the US don't settle down so fast because there's always the risk of being kicked out. Most people I know only go through the whole "settle down" process after they get the green card.