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I use emacs, but it has lots of problems; I'm still waiting for an editor that combines its good qualities while resolving the problems. (And I'm tempted to try

by dilap 9y ago

I use emacs, but it has lots of problems; I'm still waiting for an editor that combines its good qualities while resolving the problems. (And I'm tempted to try to write one.)

shalabhc 9y ago
What do you think are the problems of emacs?
- kaens 9y ago
  30 years of cruft + mix/matching of semi-incompatible semi-backwards-compatible systems if you use 3rd-party elisp and/or maintain a config for a long time. I love emacs, use it daily, and think that it's positives far outweigh it's negatives, but hooo boy sometimes you need to wade through decades of muck to make it do a thing, and it's often not clear what the best way to go about trying to do a thing is, particularly to people who haven't been using emacs for a decade+.
- thomastjeffery 9y ago
  My biggest problem with Emacs is that most modes map keys to be compatible with its default layout, so you really can't get away from the default Keybindings. Evil-mode is nice in this regard, but I don't want Vim's defaults either, not to mention Emacs' bindings are still there, just hiding in insert mode. The feature I want the most (that isn't readily available in an editor) is to define keybindings from scratch. I don't want to deal with undoing everyone else's work just to get started on my own.
- dilap 9y ago
  bad performance and lots of bugs.
thomastjeffery 9y ago
> And I'm tempted to try to write one. It looks like there are quite a few of us. I wonder how many would be interested in putting a group project together. I would really like to consider and hash out some ideas with a group.
- dilap 9y ago
  Sure, I’m down. Maybe start a slack or a subreddit or something? :)
  - thomastjeffery 9y ago
    Here, I made a subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/TextEditorDesign/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TextEditorDesign/

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I use emacs, but it has lots of problems; I'm still waiting for an editor that combines its good qualities while resolving the problems. (And I'm tempted to try

by dilap 9y ago

I use emacs, but it has lots of problems; I'm still waiting for an editor that combines its good qualities while resolving the problems. (And I'm tempted to try to write one.)

shalabhc 9y ago
What do you think are the problems of emacs?
- kaens 9y ago
  30 years of cruft + mix/matching of semi-incompatible semi-backwards-compatible systems if you use 3rd-party elisp and/or maintain a config for a long time. I love emacs, use it daily, and think that it's positives far outweigh it's negatives, but hooo boy sometimes you need to wade through decades of muck to make it do a thing, and it's often not clear what the best way to go about trying to do a thing is, particularly to people who haven't been using emacs for a decade+.
- thomastjeffery 9y ago
  My biggest problem with Emacs is that most modes map keys to be compatible with its default layout, so you really can't get away from the default Keybindings. Evil-mode is nice in this regard, but I don't want Vim's defaults either, not to mention Emacs' bindings are still there, just hiding in insert mode. The feature I want the most (that isn't readily available in an editor) is to define keybindings from scratch. I don't want to deal with undoing everyone else's work just to get started on my own.
- dilap 9y ago
  bad performance and lots of bugs.
thomastjeffery 9y ago
> And I'm tempted to try to write one. It looks like there are quite a few of us. I wonder how many would be interested in putting a group project together. I would really like to consider and hash out some ideas with a group.
- dilap 9y ago
  Sure, I’m down. Maybe start a slack or a subreddit or something? :)
  - thomastjeffery 9y ago
    Here, I made a subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/TextEditorDesign/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TextEditorDesign/