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People today get upset about fucking everything. Lets break the points down, shall we? > introduces himself to the men in a group but ignores the women Just

People today get upset about fucking everything. Lets break the points down, shall we? > introduces himself to the men in a group but ignores the women Just bad behavior. Hard to say anything else about such a general claim. I can't say I share this experience. > makes eye contact with the men while speaking and ignores the women Well if you make eye contact with women today, some get offended so easily that they write blog posts and even accuse men of being creeps. If we don't, obviously we do not respect you. > asks a woman if she is a plus one at the event acts surprised to discover a woman knows about cryptocurrencies Not weird at all, how many women have you met that knows a lot about cryptocurrencies? Seriously, this is just statistics. Of course people are going to be surprised of this. It's like being mad about a person acting suprised in learning that another person never have taken a car ride. > comments on the woman’s appearance rather than what she is saying Most men are attracted to women in general, so unless this is in a moment that is highly unprofessional I am not surprised. However, I have pretty much never witnessed this except on psuedo-anonymous places like comment sections on internet, never IRL in a professional context. Personally, I follow people because what they do / what they have to say. I also believe most men do that. I am very tired of feminism and this constant nagging. In fact, it is my experience that women follow and judges people a lot more based on their looks and not what they actually have to say.

watwut 9y ago
"Not weird at all, how many women have you met that knows a lot about cryptocurrencies?" Overwhelming majority of men don't know about cryptocurrencies either. It is only people who go to tech events who do. Of people who go to meetups and such, I haven't seen any +1 of any gender. The assumption that if you went to tech event then you know about tech seems safe for anyone. And dunno, going meta offended over someone expressing that yep, this makes women questioning whether they are treated equally behind back is, well, being special snowflake too. You just explained to me what for construct is instead of reacting to my proposal seriously, do you want me to pretend I think I am treated equally? I know I am not, you know I am not (because statistics), so why expectation to pretend otherwise? It is just a lie.
- staticelf 9y ago
  Depends completetly on the event. The author doesn't specify any example of what type of event this regards (except that it is a "crypto event"). > I haven't seen any +1 of any gender Sure this is probably quite uncommon on most tech events and meetups but there are several events where people bring family that is related to technology. > And dunno, going meta offended over someone expressing that yep, this makes [...] I am not offended, I am simply tired to hear this over and over when in reality it at least for me seems to almost never happen. > I know I am not, you know I am not (because statistics), so why expectation to pretend otherwise? It is just a lie. I think women and men are treated equally, at least where I live and in all the events I've attended. Of course people are going to be douchebags and uncomfortable situations between genders are going to occur, but this is true for everyone. I have been disrespected by both women and men but I do not get upset about all of them because of it.
  - rabbyte 9y ago
    So your position is: "I don't experience this so it probably doesn't happen often but others should stop talking about it because I'm tired how often this comes up." I'm curious what aspect of your contribution you think contributes to anything.
    - staticelf 9y ago
      No my position is a tad more complicated than that. My position is that of course people should voice concern over actual discrimination based on gender. But this rant on social interactions in which there is no evidence presented and just big claims that this happens a lot is simply what is is, big claims. I claim that this don't happen as often as some people suggests, a claim that is just as valid as the authors. My position is that this hurts women in tech and diversity as a whole. Baseless arguments like the authors contributes to the toxic environment we have today where everything you do is wrong. Just take that conference Github was supposed to have. They picked all candidates from without knowing gender or anything about the authors (blind review) [1] and when it was discovered every presenter picked was a male, the conference was cancelled because meritocracy is appearantly not ok if only men were selected even if their talks were deemed superior [2]. This is just one demonstration about the extreme views that is hurting equality. Another is Brit Ruby 2013 which was cancelled for the same reasons basically: https://gist.github.com/seanhandley/4106776 https://gist.github.com/seanhandley/4106776 And it is just the absolute top of the mountain, there are so many stupid things going on in the name of equality and diversity it's unbelievable. If we are not supposed to care about genders, why do we care if there is more women in tech at all? [1] https://cfp.githubapp.com/events/electronconf-2017 https://cfp.githubapp.com/events/electronconf-2017 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14480868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14480868

watwut 9y ago

"Not weird at all, how many women have you met that knows a lot about cryptocurrencies?" Overwhelming majority of men don't know about cryptocurrencies either. It is only people who go to tech events who do. Of people who go to meetups and such, I haven't seen any +1 of any gender. The assumption that if you went to tech event then you know about tech seems safe for anyone. And dunno, going meta offended over someone expressing that yep, this makes women questioning whether they are treated equally behind back is, well, being special snowflake too. You just explained to me what for construct is instead of reacting to my proposal seriously, do you want me to pretend I think I am treated equally? I know I am not, you know I am not (because statistics), so why expectation to pretend otherwise? It is just a lie.

staticelf 9y ago
Depends completetly on the event. The author doesn't specify any example of what type of event this regards (except that it is a "crypto event"). > I haven't seen any +1 of any gender Sure this is probably quite uncommon on most tech events and meetups but there are several events where people bring family that is related to technology. > And dunno, going meta offended over someone expressing that yep, this makes [...] I am not offended, I am simply tired to hear this over and over when in reality it at least for me seems to almost never happen. > I know I am not, you know I am not (because statistics), so why expectation to pretend otherwise? It is just a lie. I think women and men are treated equally, at least where I live and in all the events I've attended. Of course people are going to be douchebags and uncomfortable situations between genders are going to occur, but this is true for everyone. I have been disrespected by both women and men but I do not get upset about all of them because of it.
- rabbyte 9y ago
  So your position is: "I don't experience this so it probably doesn't happen often but others should stop talking about it because I'm tired how often this comes up." I'm curious what aspect of your contribution you think contributes to anything.
  - staticelf 9y ago
    No my position is a tad more complicated than that. My position is that of course people should voice concern over actual discrimination based on gender. But this rant on social interactions in which there is no evidence presented and just big claims that this happens a lot is simply what is is, big claims. I claim that this don't happen as often as some people suggests, a claim that is just as valid as the authors. My position is that this hurts women in tech and diversity as a whole. Baseless arguments like the authors contributes to the toxic environment we have today where everything you do is wrong. Just take that conference Github was supposed to have. They picked all candidates from without knowing gender or anything about the authors (blind review) [1] and when it was discovered every presenter picked was a male, the conference was cancelled because meritocracy is appearantly not ok if only men were selected even if their talks were deemed superior [2]. This is just one demonstration about the extreme views that is hurting equality. Another is Brit Ruby 2013 which was cancelled for the same reasons basically: https://gist.github.com/seanhandley/4106776 https://gist.github.com/seanhandley/4106776 And it is just the absolute top of the mountain, there are so many stupid things going on in the name of equality and diversity it's unbelievable. If we are not supposed to care about genders, why do we care if there is more women in tech at all? [1] https://cfp.githubapp.com/events/electronconf-2017 https://cfp.githubapp.com/events/electronconf-2017 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14480868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14480868