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> people neglect them and then sue the company Yes, they do, just like every other product, including dangerous products. Some of those products handle similar
by pdkl95 9y ago
> people neglect them and then sue the company
Yes, they do, just like every other product, including dangerous products. Some of those products handle similar amounts of energy and some involved chemistry that was just as hazardous as LiNiMnCoO2 orLiNiCoAlO2. To accommodate these hazards sometimes we required the end user to get special training/licensing (e.g. cars). The most important safety feature that we've learned over the last few centuries is that hazardous products must be designed to fail safely.
> Remote monitoring ensures
This is useless for safety[1], because the network isn't a reliable to the degree that is required for safety. You have to assume the network will not be available, sometimes for long periods of time (months), sometimes for reasons outside the user's control.
Anybody selling a product that ignores the lesson of the Therac-25 should be held criminally liable for any damage/injury caused by their product.
[1] it may be useful for other reasons unrelated to safety
[2] (pdf) http://sunnyday.mit.edu/papers/therac.pdf http://sunnyday.mit.edu/papers/therac.pdf
- smsm42 9y agoNot killing the user is only the first step. Suppose we made it to fail safely in any doubtful case - just shut down. And then the user calls you and screams "I am without power, fix it NOW!" and you have zero data why it happened. And that happens thousands of times over thousands of places. Wouldn't you want to have some data to allow you to see what's going on? Maybe you noticed how many products have this "report crash to developers" dialog when something goes wrong. It's not random. But software devs usually can't make user send them data before crash happened, to see what is going on. If they could, they'd probably prefer having that. Tesla wants having that too. From their side, from their point of view, it is very natural to want that.