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> Or does buying a car in 2017 mean I should expect my every move watched by the manufacturer and available to them to use as they please without my consent? I
by jlgaddis 9y ago
> Or does buying a car in 2017 mean I should expect my every move watched by the manufacturer and available to them to use as they please without my consent?
I can't say with 100% certainty that it is happening, of course, but I do think that, yes, you should expect that it is. If, by some chance, it isn't happening, well, I'm sure it's just because they haven't figured out a way to make a dollar from the data yet. Give 'em time.
I am actually pretty convinced that my truck "phones home" at regular intervals and sends at least some data back to the mothership (odometer data, in particular, but who knows what else), especially after a recent OTA-delivered software update (the first that I am aware of since purchasing the truck). I would not be surprised at all to learn that my car also does so. Both vehicles have built-in (3G) cellular connectivity and both have apps available for interacting with them in various ways from a mobile phone (FWIW, I have never installed them, set up the necessary accounts online, etc., and never will).
In addition, ISTR hearing about (maybe a year or two ago?) some "data broker" that was purchasing vehicle data from manufacturers (or planning to do so, perhaps) and turning around and selling that data to automobile insurance companies. "Oh, he likes to drive 15 MPH over the speed limit? He's never been in an accident or been cited but let's go ahead and raise his rates anyways!".
I have thought before about looking into how to disconnect the cellular radios in my vehicles (especially the Dodge RAM -- cf. Charlie Miller's work) but, now, I think I may go through with it.
N.B.: My vehicles are 2013 (Dodge) and 2014 (Nissan) models. I'm sure things have only gotten worse in the few years since then.