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Some people you can trust. Others you can't. This has no correlation with skin color. To think otherwise is... well... racist.

alphakappa 9y ago
That's a naive belief to have in practice. If you are part of a group that has been systematically oppressed by a different group because of your skin color, there is a valid correlation between trust and skin color. To think otherwise is... well... naive.
- scoofy 9y ago
  Saying "not being a racist is naive" sounds just as stupid when applied to whites as it does to when applied to blacks, asians, hispanics, jews, etc., etc. Being racist is stupid, not smart
- hyperdunc 9y ago
  Fortunately, there's no more systematic oppression. Dwelling on past systematic injustices hampers building trust. Better to just call out instances of racism when we see them.
  - cooper12 9y ago
    > Fortunately, there's no more systematic oppression Ahh, thank god you declared it and it became so. At best you're sheltered and ignorant, and at worse you're being purposefully obtuse.
    - hyperdunc 9y ago
      I was talking about the systematic oppression of black people. If you're talking about affirmative action then I agree that whites and Asians are systematically discriminated against.
      - cooper12 9y ago
        So it's the latter then. Nice talking to you.
- blackbagboys 9y ago
  There are quite a few valid correlations that judging individuals on the basis of would be considered racist.
- taneq 9y ago
  It's funny how racist apologetics sound the same no matter what race is being targeted.
theyregreat 9y ago
Be a black person with a broken-down car in the middle of nowhere in Alabama and say that. Lots of luck.
egypturnash 9y ago
I'm a white lady who grew up in the south and yeah, I got absolutely no problems with black people not trusting us white folks. We've treated them like shit for a long-ass time.
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forapurpose 9y ago
> Some people you can trust. Others you can't. This has no correlation with skin color. That's the ideal, which I fully support, but tragically it is not at all the reality of people with black skin in the U.S. > racist In a small way, it's an interesting philosophical debate about semantics, but it has nothing to do with the very real, critical issue, which has caused centuries of suffering and oppression for millions of people. While we argue about words, they are in real pain.
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rrego 9y ago
You're totally ignoring or forgetting context. Which is that the green book exists because of the Jim Crow laws at the time, along with the general racism. It's not remotely racist to stay away from white businesses when there is a certain possibility of service refusal, and a possibility that you might be assulted and killed. Hence the necessity of this book. To say that his family was racist for not trusting white people with the books info, is to be totally ignorant (Tulsa is one example). You have an extremely weird idea of racism that is not grounded in reality.
hacking_again 9y ago
It's not racist to assume that you can more safely trust other people that look like you, because most people are racist and are therefore less likely to betray the trust of someone who looks like them. There are sociology / anthropology / psychology experiments and studies and stuff if you look.
- orcdork 9y ago
  Yeah, going through life using sociology / anthropology / psychology experiments as a moral compass sounds like something a well adjusted person would do.
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nkozyra 9y ago
I think this is less a correlation with skin color than culture, tradition, inertia and education (or lack thereof). It's demonstrably real, and why it takes decades or centuries to undo. The lasting inertia of institutional racism in the United States is pretty hard to ignore, though I've encountered my share of people who think it's all in the past. "Trust" assumes a fair, even starting point.

alphakappa 9y ago

That's a naive belief to have in practice. If you are part of a group that has been systematically oppressed by a different group because of your skin color, there is a valid correlation between trust and skin color. To think otherwise is... well... naive.

scoofy 9y ago
Saying "not being a racist is naive" sounds just as stupid when applied to whites as it does to when applied to blacks, asians, hispanics, jews, etc., etc. Being racist is stupid, not smart
hyperdunc 9y ago
Fortunately, there's no more systematic oppression. Dwelling on past systematic injustices hampers building trust. Better to just call out instances of racism when we see them.
- cooper12 9y ago
  > Fortunately, there's no more systematic oppression Ahh, thank god you declared it and it became so. At best you're sheltered and ignorant, and at worse you're being purposefully obtuse.
  - hyperdunc 9y ago
    I was talking about the systematic oppression of black people. If you're talking about affirmative action then I agree that whites and Asians are systematically discriminated against.
    - cooper12 9y ago
      So it's the latter then. Nice talking to you.
blackbagboys 9y ago
There are quite a few valid correlations that judging individuals on the basis of would be considered racist.
taneq 9y ago
It's funny how racist apologetics sound the same no matter what race is being targeted.

theyregreat 9y ago

Be a black person with a broken-down car in the middle of nowhere in Alabama and say that. Lots of luck.

egypturnash 9y ago

I'm a white lady who grew up in the south and yeah, I got absolutely no problems with black people not trusting us white folks. We've treated them like shit for a long-ass time.

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forapurpose 9y ago

> Some people you can trust. Others you can't. This has no correlation with skin color. That's the ideal, which I fully support, but tragically it is not at all the reality of people with black skin in the U.S. > racist In a small way, it's an interesting philosophical debate about semantics, but it has nothing to do with the very real, critical issue, which has caused centuries of suffering and oppression for millions of people. While we argue about words, they are in real pain.

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rrego 9y ago

You're totally ignoring or forgetting context. Which is that the green book exists because of the Jim Crow laws at the time, along with the general racism. It's not remotely racist to stay away from white businesses when there is a certain possibility of service refusal, and a possibility that you might be assulted and killed. Hence the necessity of this book. To say that his family was racist for not trusting white people with the books info, is to be totally ignorant (Tulsa is one example). You have an extremely weird idea of racism that is not grounded in reality.

hacking_again 9y ago

It's not racist to assume that you can more safely trust other people that look like you, because most people are racist and are therefore less likely to betray the trust of someone who looks like them. There are sociology / anthropology / psychology experiments and studies and stuff if you look.

orcdork 9y ago
Yeah, going through life using sociology / anthropology / psychology experiments as a moral compass sounds like something a well adjusted person would do.

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nkozyra 9y ago

I think this is less a correlation with skin color than culture, tradition, inertia and education (or lack thereof). It's demonstrably real, and why it takes decades or centuries to undo. The lasting inertia of institutional racism in the United States is pretty hard to ignore, though I've encountered my share of people who think it's all in the past. "Trust" assumes a fair, even starting point.