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Several people and they provided pictures and testimony. There are more facts, like that the organization changed the methods 15m before starting and lost inter
by lz400 9y ago
Several people and they provided pictures and testimony. There are more facts, like that the organization changed the methods 15m before starting and lost internet access and had to resort to writing people's names manually without checks are not even disputed by the Catalan authorities. They breached ~50% of their own electoral law, that they made up for this event alone. You are not going to find a statistical study of the elections, obviously. But nobody who was watching impartially has any doubts as to the fraud guarantees.
- gonvaled 9y agoAll thanks to the spanish government.
- mrhappyunhappy 9y agoI hate to tell ya but you are making the mjnority argument here. Nobody in their right mind would support what the Spanish police are doing to people casting votes - legal or not.
- jwhitlark 9y agoThe national government being wrong does not mean that the regional government is right.
- lz400 9y agoI'm not justifying the police actions, just saying the referendum was a farce. In fact without the police action, it would have been a farce too, which makes you wonder why they needed to stir the pot with so many police but anyway.
- marcoperaza 9y agoAmong other measures, Abraham Lincoln had state legislators arrested to prevent them from voting for secession. He ended up waging the deadliest war in US history to force the seceding states to remain in the Union. Today, Abraham Lincoln is a hero. And before you bring in slavery, I think it's very clear from Lincoln's writings that he would have done the same no matter what the basis for secession was (and before the war, he was also in favor of continuing slavery if it would have kept the Union together).