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You're right. I've never been to Spain, I know no one from Spain, and I don't really know anything about Spain, but I do know that using a militarized police fo

You're right. I've never been to Spain, I know no one from Spain, and I don't really know anything about Spain, but I do know that using a militarized police force to stop an election, even one that is technically illegal, is pretty messed up and will only serve to further prove the separatists right. If you make peaceful protest illegal, you make violent revolution inevitable. Even if it's illegal to declare independence, it should never be illegal to vote on anything. I have no stake in the outcome in any way, but at this point I'm rooting for independence. Spain has really proven that they're not worthy of ruling over Catalans if this is how they're treating them during a simple election.

hjrnunes 9y ago
That is ridiculous. There was a court order to stop that action. What sort of democracy is it when you can just ignore court orders? If they wanted to protest then they should've organised protests and demonstrations. If they really wanted to make a point, organise a symbolic voting and have someone face the charges. To go ahead with the whole thing was reckless. The courts cannot afford to allow themselves to be ignored. That's the very opposite of the rule of Law!
- pako_crack 9y ago
  spot on.
- freehunter 9y ago
  A court order to stop a vote, to me, is appalling. It should be ignored. A vote is just a protest, it is purely symbolic until it's implemented. Voting should never be illegal, even if implementing the law voted on would be illegal. Marijuana is illegal in many places in the US. It's illegal at the federal level, and even if it's legal in some states, the federal government can still arrest you for having marijuana. But we constantly have votes to try to legalize it at the local or state level, knowing that it's still illegal at the national level. Having that vote is not illegal, even if following through with the results of the vote is illegal. Courts are not infallible and their orders are not always the best course of action. Almost every declaration of independence throughout history has been considered illegal. They were reckless. They were against the rule of law. They still happened. Regardless, a vote is a peaceful action. Responding to that peaceful action with violence is what is reckless and against the rule of law. I guess there are still some freedoms we take for granted in the US that other countries have not yet granted themselves.

hjrnunes 9y ago

That is ridiculous. There was a court order to stop that action. What sort of democracy is it when you can just ignore court orders? If they wanted to protest then they should've organised protests and demonstrations. If they really wanted to make a point, organise a symbolic voting and have someone face the charges. To go ahead with the whole thing was reckless. The courts cannot afford to allow themselves to be ignored. That's the very opposite of the rule of Law!

pako_crack 9y ago
spot on.
freehunter 9y ago
A court order to stop a vote, to me, is appalling. It should be ignored. A vote is just a protest, it is purely symbolic until it's implemented. Voting should never be illegal, even if implementing the law voted on would be illegal. Marijuana is illegal in many places in the US. It's illegal at the federal level, and even if it's legal in some states, the federal government can still arrest you for having marijuana. But we constantly have votes to try to legalize it at the local or state level, knowing that it's still illegal at the national level. Having that vote is not illegal, even if following through with the results of the vote is illegal. Courts are not infallible and their orders are not always the best course of action. Almost every declaration of independence throughout history has been considered illegal. They were reckless. They were against the rule of law. They still happened. Regardless, a vote is a peaceful action. Responding to that peaceful action with violence is what is reckless and against the rule of law. I guess there are still some freedoms we take for granted in the US that other countries have not yet granted themselves.