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There are reports of people voting from two to 4 different schools. Wondering what methods authorities used to ensure there was no fraud on these referendum.

hyper_reality 9y ago
I suspect that will be one argument used by the Spanish authorities as to why the referendum was invalid.
- rasz 9y ago
  There is no need for any additional arguments beyond whats in Spanish constitution.
  - justin66 9y ago
    If they really felt that way, they wouldn't have sent all those cops to bust heads.
droopyEyelids 9y ago
Sounds pretty amazing, with all the violence and militarized police abusing the voters, for some people to be dedicated enough to go through it four times
confounded 9y ago
What would you propose in a situation where voting gets you beaten, and schools hosting ballots get smashed up?
- hjrnunes 9y ago
  They organisers knew the courts had instructed police to stop it. If they wanted to protest then they should've organised protests and demonstrations, which are perfectly allowed in Spain. That would be the democratic way. Not to insist on breaking the law and disobeying court orders.
plaintext-cat 9y ago
First-hand experience: Paper census lists aside, you could only vote via a centralized web service where your National ID would be noted. You couldn’t vote twice, despite (one) montage claims so.
farresito 9y ago
I voted. I can't talk about all the schools, but the ones I checked made sure (electronically) that you didn't vote twice, but of course there's a chance that some people did indeed vote more than once if for some reason they manually wrote down the name.
- lacaza 9y ago
  Check this out: https://twitter.com/key_opinions/status/914529367543382016 https://twitter.com/key_opinions/status/914529367543382016 https://twitter.com/juanmalamet/status/914448261964029957 https://twitter.com/juanmalamet/status/914448261964029957 https://twitter.com/yuyudecai/status/914577981812674566 https://twitter.com/yuyudecai/status/914577981812674566
- plaintext-cat 9y ago
  Do not disinform. Names were NEVER written down. Either you voted because you were on the list, or the system validated you were a voter who didn’t vote yet.

hyper_reality 9y ago

I suspect that will be one argument used by the Spanish authorities as to why the referendum was invalid.

rasz 9y ago
There is no need for any additional arguments beyond whats in Spanish constitution.
- justin66 9y ago
  If they really felt that way, they wouldn't have sent all those cops to bust heads.

droopyEyelids 9y ago

Sounds pretty amazing, with all the violence and militarized police abusing the voters, for some people to be dedicated enough to go through it four times

confounded 9y ago

What would you propose in a situation where voting gets you beaten, and schools hosting ballots get smashed up?

hjrnunes 9y ago
They organisers knew the courts had instructed police to stop it. If they wanted to protest then they should've organised protests and demonstrations, which are perfectly allowed in Spain. That would be the democratic way. Not to insist on breaking the law and disobeying court orders.

plaintext-cat 9y ago

First-hand experience: Paper census lists aside, you could only vote via a centralized web service where your National ID would be noted. You couldn’t vote twice, despite (one) montage claims so.

farresito 9y ago

I voted. I can't talk about all the schools, but the ones I checked made sure (electronically) that you didn't vote twice, but of course there's a chance that some people did indeed vote more than once if for some reason they manually wrote down the name.

lacaza 9y ago
Check this out: https://twitter.com/key_opinions/status/914529367543382016 https://twitter.com/key_opinions/status/914529367543382016 https://twitter.com/juanmalamet/status/914448261964029957 https://twitter.com/juanmalamet/status/914448261964029957 https://twitter.com/yuyudecai/status/914577981812674566 https://twitter.com/yuyudecai/status/914577981812674566
plaintext-cat 9y ago
Do not disinform. Names were NEVER written down. Either you voted because you were on the list, or the system validated you were a voter who didn’t vote yet.