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I was specifically referring to the US flavor of Neo-Natzism. I'm unfamiliar with the current German flavor. The US flavor seems to be all talk. For example, th

I was specifically referring to the US flavor of Neo-Natzism. I'm unfamiliar with the current German flavor. The US flavor seems to be all talk. For example, the leader of the Charlottesville protests where the lady was run over and killed, cried on the internet when he found out the cops were going to arrest him. They act fierce, but when it comes down to it, they're all talk.

Mithaldu 9y ago
Fwiw, i've read people say that that was fake to garner publicity. Part of the "spread the message to 10000 people even if it makes you look bad to most of them, if it means reaching the 10 among them who'd sympathize with it" thing. Also, as a german again: There's no useful difference between action and talk, especially in peace times. The holocaust was at its root caused by words after all.
- Clubber 9y ago
  I think the 60 minutes interview with him did a much better job of disseminating his rhetoric. It probably had 10 million viewers on airing, and several million more after. This was of course a direct result of the antifa movement's attempt to protest / silence them in Charlottesville. I believe this is a textbook definition of irony. I guess my biggest protest against silencing groups like this is more times than not, it does the opposite. >There's no useful difference between action and talk, especially in peace times. We'll have to agree to disagree. Wanting to murder someone and actually murdering them has an ocean of difference.
  - Mithaldu 9y ago
    > We'll have to agree to disagree. Wanting to murder someone and actually murdering them has an ocean of difference. If unopposed both lead to the same result.
gspetr 9y ago
She was hit by a car but that was not the cause of death. She was morbidly obese and a heavy smoker. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/heather-heyer-s-mom-delivers-message-about-karma-to-white-nationalists-1028340803735 https://www.nbcnews.com/video/heather-heyer-s-mom-delivers-m... You heard that right. Heather Heyer died of a heart attack. Heather Heyer, whom the media has told us again and again was killed after being run over by a white supremacist. While that statement might be strictly true, generally people assume that when someone dies as a result of being struck by a car that the death is a direct consequence of injuries sustained due to being struck by a car. EDIT: Note that James Fields, the driver, had a history of mental illness, he was denied his request to enlist in the US Army because of history of taking anti-psychotic medication. The media deliberately used a 10 year old picture of Heather Heyer where she was young and beautiful and not morbidly obese to deliberately spark the outrage by creating the optics of "young beautiful girl tragically run down by an ugly white supremacist". That sells so much better than "a panicked schizophrene loses control, in the ensuing stampede a morbidly obese woman dies of heart attack".

Mithaldu 9y ago

Fwiw, i've read people say that that was fake to garner publicity. Part of the "spread the message to 10000 people even if it makes you look bad to most of them, if it means reaching the 10 among them who'd sympathize with it" thing. Also, as a german again: There's no useful difference between action and talk, especially in peace times. The holocaust was at its root caused by words after all.

Clubber 9y ago
I think the 60 minutes interview with him did a much better job of disseminating his rhetoric. It probably had 10 million viewers on airing, and several million more after. This was of course a direct result of the antifa movement's attempt to protest / silence them in Charlottesville. I believe this is a textbook definition of irony. I guess my biggest protest against silencing groups like this is more times than not, it does the opposite. >There's no useful difference between action and talk, especially in peace times. We'll have to agree to disagree. Wanting to murder someone and actually murdering them has an ocean of difference.
- Mithaldu 9y ago
  > We'll have to agree to disagree. Wanting to murder someone and actually murdering them has an ocean of difference. If unopposed both lead to the same result.

gspetr 9y ago

She was hit by a car but that was not the cause of death. She was morbidly obese and a heavy smoker. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/heather-heyer-s-mom-delivers-message-about-karma-to-white-nationalists-1028340803735 https://www.nbcnews.com/video/heather-heyer-s-mom-delivers-m... You heard that right. Heather Heyer died of a heart attack. Heather Heyer, whom the media has told us again and again was killed after being run over by a white supremacist. While that statement might be strictly true, generally people assume that when someone dies as a result of being struck by a car that the death is a direct consequence of injuries sustained due to being struck by a car. EDIT: Note that James Fields, the driver, had a history of mental illness, he was denied his request to enlist in the US Army because of history of taking anti-psychotic medication. The media deliberately used a 10 year old picture of Heather Heyer where she was young and beautiful and not morbidly obese to deliberately spark the outrage by creating the optics of "young beautiful girl tragically run down by an ugly white supremacist". That sells so much better than "a panicked schizophrene loses control, in the ensuing stampede a morbidly obese woman dies of heart attack".