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Yeah, I was going with this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism And using the actual Fascists (namely Italy and S

by KGIII 9y ago

Yeah, I was going with this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism And using the actual Fascists (namely Italy and Spain) to determine what fascism means. See the very first sentence in the link where they define it. It's not that these are good people, I just think there should be a better word to describe them. Perhaps just 'Nazi' is adequate? White Nationalist works too.

Mithaldu 9y ago
You guys are getting lost too much in domain-specific terms. At its core fascism is one thing: The belief that a nation is like a living being and must do everything to protect itself as it is at that moment and try to grow, and that might makes right on a national scale. It's the belief that Darwinian principles of the survival of the fittest do not only apply to creatues, but also to nations and that this is also how the world should be. Everything else is just the expression and logical conclusion of this belief. And the nazis currently in germany specifically 100% subscribe to this. They do not want the national culture to be changed, they do not think other nations should be helped, etc. etc. Even white supremacy is just a side effect of that. It comes from wanting the demography of one's country to remain unchanged.
- Clubber 9y ago
  >The belief that a nation is like a living being and must do everything to protect itself as it is at that moment and try to grow, and that might makes right on a national scale. It's the belief that Darwinian principles of the survival of the fittest do not only apply to creatues, but also to nations and that this is also how the world should be. I don't mean to sound snarky, but this sounds an awful lot like US foreign policy since the start of the Cold War.
  - Mithaldu 9y ago
    It's a good thing the USA doesn't have many direct neighbors.

by KGIII 9y ago

Mithaldu 9y ago

You guys are getting lost too much in domain-specific terms. At its core fascism is one thing: The belief that a nation is like a living being and must do everything to protect itself as it is at that moment and try to grow, and that might makes right on a national scale. It's the belief that Darwinian principles of the survival of the fittest do not only apply to creatues, but also to nations and that this is also how the world should be. Everything else is just the expression and logical conclusion of this belief. And the nazis currently in germany specifically 100% subscribe to this. They do not want the national culture to be changed, they do not think other nations should be helped, etc. etc. Even white supremacy is just a side effect of that. It comes from wanting the demography of one's country to remain unchanged.

Clubber 9y ago
>The belief that a nation is like a living being and must do everything to protect itself as it is at that moment and try to grow, and that might makes right on a national scale. It's the belief that Darwinian principles of the survival of the fittest do not only apply to creatues, but also to nations and that this is also how the world should be. I don't mean to sound snarky, but this sounds an awful lot like US foreign policy since the start of the Cold War.
- Mithaldu 9y ago
  It's a good thing the USA doesn't have many direct neighbors.