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This is such an interesting topic and so hard to draw the line the right spot. The biggest question is always "Who gets to say?". If you leave it up to whoever
by snarf21 9y ago
This is such an interesting topic and so hard to draw the line the right spot. The biggest question is always "Who gets to say?". If you leave it up to whoever is in charge right now, they have all the power. Slippery slope and all that...
I've come to the (current) belief that these idiots have the right to free speech even if I hate it. Outlawing it won't stop their bigotry, just take it underground and give them another thing to blame on the "bad" people.
I also think although they should be able to have their rallies and websites, we also have free speech to identify and make public their identities and call their families and employers and ask them if they support these ideas too. Some people at Charlottesville were dumb founded when they got fired. I think this approach does a better job of saying this line of thinking is not accepted here but maintaining people's right to free speech. I also personally believe you aren't going hate by yelling at people that they are dumb. Cliche but you only stop hate with love and familiarity.
I also think there is a topic in this discussion that doesn't get enough mention. I personally feel this issue is as much an economic one as ideological. People don't have jobs and Trump's platform gives them someone to blame. It is the immigrants who stole your jobs and we are going to bring all the jobs back to the US. We need a wall to keep out all these "bad" people. We are going to do everything America first. This rhetoric give people a pass. People who feel they have nothing left to lose are dangerous. Even more so when someone else is giving them a target to blame.
- rtpg 9y agoThere's definitely an... Economical or "social outcast" angle that produces a good chunk of these people. You're stuck in a shitty environment , so you find one where you can feel better. This is also a pattern seen with gangs. RE legality though: meth and tabacco are basically the same level of addictiveness, but tabacco is more preponderant because it's legal. Not to say that we should "make illegal speech" to deal with this problem, but no-platforming racists (as private citizens) likely helps fight against racism. It's not ideologically inconsistent to be for free speech but not let klansmen into your home. And there are more than enough service providers for these people, you don't have to serve them. They found a replacement for Cloudflare quickly in this example.