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The problem is how you determine the entity that should have a right to such a vote. There are many wealthy regions in many countries that may want to keep all

The problem is how you determine the entity that should have a right to such a vote. There are many wealthy regions in many countries that may want to keep all their money for themselves in spite of the fact that their wealth is based on its historical role within the country as a whole. For instance, London has a lot of reasons to declare itself independent from the UK. But it would seem rather odd if all it took to secede was a simple majority of people who currently have a London postcode.

mo_po 9y ago
As a catalan, I have to say that I don't care if we pay more taxes. What I find annoying is that PP, party that uses hate against catalans to win votes and has corruption rooted and proved since it's foundation, keeps raising election after election. The economical matter by itself is just a selfish argument that I don't share. I care for fighting corruption and for not being treated as a second class citizen because I was taught two languages in my childhood. Lies are spread constantly about how non-catalans are mistreated and nobody seems to care that there is no proof supporting that. Please, stop saying it is a money related problem.
- dgut 9y ago
  Catalonia has no better corruption track record than the rest of Spain. Basically what you are saying is that you don't like the majority party, and therefore want to form your own nation. That's not how democracy works. Catalonia already enjoys a strong autonomy status, stronger than any other region of Spain and arguably stronger than any other region of Europe. I agree PP isn't optimal, but I fail to see any real alternative coming from Catalonia or the entire region that is Spain.
- fauigerzigerk 9y ago
  I believe you when you say it's not about money for you. That doesn't mean it's not for many others. However, my concern is more about the principle of the right to secede.

mo_po 9y ago

As a catalan, I have to say that I don't care if we pay more taxes. What I find annoying is that PP, party that uses hate against catalans to win votes and has corruption rooted and proved since it's foundation, keeps raising election after election. The economical matter by itself is just a selfish argument that I don't share. I care for fighting corruption and for not being treated as a second class citizen because I was taught two languages in my childhood. Lies are spread constantly about how non-catalans are mistreated and nobody seems to care that there is no proof supporting that. Please, stop saying it is a money related problem.

dgut 9y ago
Catalonia has no better corruption track record than the rest of Spain. Basically what you are saying is that you don't like the majority party, and therefore want to form your own nation. That's not how democracy works. Catalonia already enjoys a strong autonomy status, stronger than any other region of Spain and arguably stronger than any other region of Europe. I agree PP isn't optimal, but I fail to see any real alternative coming from Catalonia or the entire region that is Spain.
fauigerzigerk 9y ago
I believe you when you say it's not about money for you. That doesn't mean it's not for many others. However, my concern is more about the principle of the right to secede.