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I'm from Spain (Madrid) and I support the referendum, because I'm an economic libertarian and I support the freedom of association and smaller States. BTW, thi

I'm from Spain (Madrid) and I support the referendum, because I'm an economic libertarian and I support the freedom of association and smaller States. BTW, this is not a real referendum, as there are no guarantees. Of course, the reason why there are no democratic guarantees is because of the actions of the Spanish government. But you can see the "high degree" census control here in this video: https://elpais.com/Comentario/1506857481-5be7eb5d11476b5cac18b48068d1e87d https://elpais.com/Comentario/1506857481-5be7eb5d11476b5cac1... But I also have to say that there is certain hypocrisy in all this. Pro-independence people already have the pictures and excuses they wanted: Catalans voting and the Spanish police exercising violence. But, if Catalonia became independent, they would also have a police, a repressive force. So you can see how the excuse for creating a new State, violence of the State, is hypocritical for an economic liberal like me.

_hgt1 9y ago
The Catalan police is here too, and they're not cracking skulls.
- Findeton 9y ago
  Of course, but they will use violence when something that the Catalan gov doesn't like happens. And it's not an hypothesis, it has already happened in the near past.
ryanlol 9y ago
>But you can see the "high degree" census control here in this video: https://elpais.com/Comentario/1506857481-5be7eb5d11476b5cac1.. https://elpais.com/Comentario/1506857481-5be7eb5d11476b5cac1.... This video tells you nothing, those ballot boxes don't seem to be in a polling station. Why assume they'll ever be counted?
- Findeton 9y ago
  Because the Catalan gov has said that if polling stations are closed by the Spanish police, they will vote in the street.
patrickaljord 9y ago
As a libertarian you should support smaller government though and a Catalan government would most likely be much smaller.
- Findeton 9y ago
  And my post starts with "I'm from Spain (Madrid) and I support the referendum".

_hgt1 9y ago

The Catalan police is here too, and they're not cracking skulls.

Findeton 9y ago
Of course, but they will use violence when something that the Catalan gov doesn't like happens. And it's not an hypothesis, it has already happened in the near past.

ryanlol 9y ago

>But you can see the "high degree" census control here in this video: https://elpais.com/Comentario/1506857481-5be7eb5d11476b5cac1.. https://elpais.com/Comentario/1506857481-5be7eb5d11476b5cac1.... This video tells you nothing, those ballot boxes don't seem to be in a polling station. Why assume they'll ever be counted?

Findeton 9y ago
Because the Catalan gov has said that if polling stations are closed by the Spanish police, they will vote in the street.

patrickaljord 9y ago

As a libertarian you should support smaller government though and a Catalan government would most likely be much smaller.

Findeton 9y ago
And my post starts with "I'm from Spain (Madrid) and I support the referendum".