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you need to stop what you are doing right then and there and do something about it If you're at home, there's no reason not to just do 10 pressups right there

by gaius 9y ago

you need to stop what you are doing right then and there and do something about it If you're at home, there's no reason not to just do 10 pressups right there and then (and as you get better, 20, 30 and so on). Or dips with your chair if you can't do pressups yet.

pizza 9y ago
"desire is to drive what truth is to knowledge" you need it to be a kind of mediating objective to not lose that pledge. otherwise, the inevitable abandonment comes after exercising a handful of times, if that :P my intuition tells me you'd need a goal that has pushups (or exercise at all) only as a subcomponent along the path towards the attainment of that goal. hopefully it would persist longer than if solely working out were the goal. so that it doesn't feel "empty" or easily abandon-able after doing it a few times.
centimeter 9y ago
I agree, although I’ve found that there are diminishing returns around 25-30 push-ups. At some point you need to use weights or machines that allow you to exceed what you can get from body weight.
- gaius 9y ago
  There's always the challenge of one-arm push-ups. A person who could do 10 on each arm would be a beast!
asddddd 9y ago
I wouldn't recommend focusing on push-ups, they are counterproductive if you have the typical "computer posture" with hunched/forward shoulders. Chin-ups, rows, and similar are likely to be a better idea.
- BoiledCabbage 9y ago
  > Chin-ups, rows, and similar are likely to be a better idea. And in my opinion are entirely missing the point because they take more pre-planning and effort. Even if only a little. The problem people are trying to solve is "how do I go from nothing to exercising even a little?" The problem you are helping them solve is "how do I get more/ the most out of my workout?" It's a serious pet-peeve of mine. I know you mention it with good intentions, but people often try to help others by telling them their personal favourite item, vs helping them solve their problem. People do similar with programming languages. For a one off project or getting started sometimes a shitty language is the best way to help someone for their specific problem.
  - asddddd 9y ago
    While some exercise is probably better than none, doing only push-ups can end up being harmful. I was thinking of postural issues[1] like Upper Cross Syndrome[2], very common among people who sit at a computer all day and don't exercise. Focusing on already-strong/tight muscles like the pecs will be unhelpful for correcting these issues, and can certainly exacerbate them. That said, I may have overreacted due to conflating bench presses with push-ups. 1. http://exrx.net/Kinesiology/Posture.html http://exrx.net/Kinesiology/Posture.html 2. https://www.theptdc.com/2014/07/upper-crossed-syndrome/ https://www.theptdc.com/2014/07/upper-crossed-syndrome/ As for programming languages, I've sent "pull requests" for AutoHotKey programs via Reddit PM before. If it's the right tool (or a decent one) for the job...

by gaius 9y ago

pizza 9y ago

"desire is to drive what truth is to knowledge" you need it to be a kind of mediating objective to not lose that pledge. otherwise, the inevitable abandonment comes after exercising a handful of times, if that :P my intuition tells me you'd need a goal that has pushups (or exercise at all) only as a subcomponent along the path towards the attainment of that goal. hopefully it would persist longer than if solely working out were the goal. so that it doesn't feel "empty" or easily abandon-able after doing it a few times.

centimeter 9y ago

I agree, although I’ve found that there are diminishing returns around 25-30 push-ups. At some point you need to use weights or machines that allow you to exceed what you can get from body weight.

gaius 9y ago
There's always the challenge of one-arm push-ups. A person who could do 10 on each arm would be a beast!

asddddd 9y ago

I wouldn't recommend focusing on push-ups, they are counterproductive if you have the typical "computer posture" with hunched/forward shoulders. Chin-ups, rows, and similar are likely to be a better idea.

BoiledCabbage 9y ago
> Chin-ups, rows, and similar are likely to be a better idea. And in my opinion are entirely missing the point because they take more pre-planning and effort. Even if only a little. The problem people are trying to solve is "how do I go from nothing to exercising even a little?" The problem you are helping them solve is "how do I get more/ the most out of my workout?" It's a serious pet-peeve of mine. I know you mention it with good intentions, but people often try to help others by telling them their personal favourite item, vs helping them solve their problem. People do similar with programming languages. For a one off project or getting started sometimes a shitty language is the best way to help someone for their specific problem.
- asddddd 9y ago
  While some exercise is probably better than none, doing only push-ups can end up being harmful. I was thinking of postural issues[1] like Upper Cross Syndrome[2], very common among people who sit at a computer all day and don't exercise. Focusing on already-strong/tight muscles like the pecs will be unhelpful for correcting these issues, and can certainly exacerbate them. That said, I may have overreacted due to conflating bench presses with push-ups. 1. http://exrx.net/Kinesiology/Posture.html http://exrx.net/Kinesiology/Posture.html 2. https://www.theptdc.com/2014/07/upper-crossed-syndrome/ https://www.theptdc.com/2014/07/upper-crossed-syndrome/ As for programming languages, I've sent "pull requests" for AutoHotKey programs via Reddit PM before. If it's the right tool (or a decent one) for the job...