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If you are one of the people who wants to end "Fake News," you are also on board with ending Net Neutrality. What do you think ending Fake News involves? The o

If you are one of the people who wants to end "Fake News," you are also on board with ending Net Neutrality. What do you think ending Fake News involves? The only way to do it is to have the government, Google, Facebook and probably these same ISPs you hate deciding what can and can't be put online. You simply want to replace one giant beaurecratic gatekeeper with another one. Anyone dumb enough to think Fake News resulted in the election results (please, show me the data) while rushing online to scream about Net Neutrality is a pawn in the game.

telchar 9y ago
I'm tempted to make a sarcastic, hyperbolic reply to this hyperbolic and aggressive comment, but in the spirit of hacker news I'll address the content directly. You imply that the only way to mitigate the problem of fake news (no need for scare quotes, we're talking about news that is fake here) is to hand over total control of the internet to some single entity. You have failed to make any case that every other action that could be taken to mitigate fake news would be insufficient. This is far from clear to me. I think there is a great deal that could be done to mitigate fake news aside from that. Note that I say mitigate because I do not think it would need to be eliminated entirely to be effectively made powerless. Further, it's an old propagandist trick to claim that people who disagree with you are "screaming", to make them seem less rational and thus wrong. The language you choose to use in this post undercuts your points. Show me the data that fake news didn't affect the election results in any way. The probability of some effect is much greater than the probability of no effect at all, given the complexity of the system and the obvious mechanism. I think the burden of proof is on you.
guelo 9y ago
The 4chan poison has been spreading. The poison is when these oh-so-smart culture hackers take advantage of our open systems to constantly act in bad faith "trolling" all of us with fake propaganda across all information channels. It used to be just for the lulz, but the laugh has become organized, funded, and gained much wicked intent behind it. It is a new aggressive societal disease that is taking advantage of our openness and freedom. Similar to external terrorists these internal terrorists are causing society to recoil in horror and become less free as we look for ways to protect ourselves.

telchar 9y ago

I'm tempted to make a sarcastic, hyperbolic reply to this hyperbolic and aggressive comment, but in the spirit of hacker news I'll address the content directly. You imply that the only way to mitigate the problem of fake news (no need for scare quotes, we're talking about news that is fake here) is to hand over total control of the internet to some single entity. You have failed to make any case that every other action that could be taken to mitigate fake news would be insufficient. This is far from clear to me. I think there is a great deal that could be done to mitigate fake news aside from that. Note that I say mitigate because I do not think it would need to be eliminated entirely to be effectively made powerless. Further, it's an old propagandist trick to claim that people who disagree with you are "screaming", to make them seem less rational and thus wrong. The language you choose to use in this post undercuts your points. Show me the data that fake news didn't affect the election results in any way. The probability of some effect is much greater than the probability of no effect at all, given the complexity of the system and the obvious mechanism. I think the burden of proof is on you.

guelo 9y ago

The 4chan poison has been spreading. The poison is when these oh-so-smart culture hackers take advantage of our open systems to constantly act in bad faith "trolling" all of us with fake propaganda across all information channels. It used to be just for the lulz, but the laugh has become organized, funded, and gained much wicked intent behind it. It is a new aggressive societal disease that is taking advantage of our openness and freedom. Similar to external terrorists these internal terrorists are causing society to recoil in horror and become less free as we look for ways to protect ourselves.