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No ISP is going to stop rural Montanaians from looking up Yelp reviews or visiting obscure ferret jousting fan pages. No one is even going to throttle video str

No ISP is going to stop rural Montanaians from looking up Yelp reviews or visiting obscure ferret jousting fan pages. No one is even going to throttle video streaming, unless the ISP can demonstrate that the bandwidth consumed times some small per Gigabyte fee is worth far more than the postage and accounting costs (which for a handful of >0.1%-total-traffic-volume sites like Netflix, it will be). Your prediction is like a Terry Gilliam movie (which I love!), but it's not actually going to happen that way.

CamperBob2 9y ago
You seriously need to learn about the history of the telecoms industry, going back to the days when they did exactly what you say they're not going to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almon_Brown_Strowger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almon_Brown_Strowger Nothing is happening now that hasn't happened before. People forget, is all.
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marak830 9y ago
Actually, as to the throttling of video: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/verizon-wireless-apparently-throttles-streaming-video-to-10mbps/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/veriz...
- oconnore 9y ago
  Yes, they throttled Netflix and Youtube, two sites that account for ~30% and ~13% of total traffic volume, respectively. This is consistent with what I said.
  - marak830 9y ago
    You are right, sorry not sure how I missed that part
  - pdkl95 9y ago
    > ~30% and ~13% of total traffic volume So what? That's traffic that the ISP's customers requested. That isn't Netflix using some shared resource. Customers are paying Verison to transfer data, and if 30% of that data is NetFlix, that's fine. Throttling denies the customer the service they are paying for. Should FedEx or UPS throttle the number of Amazon packages per address they will deliver on time since Amazon represents a very large percentage of their business? (If this isn't compatible with a business model based on oversubscription, that's the ISP's problem) > No ISP is going to stop rural Montanaians from looking up Yelp reviews or visiting obscure ferret jousting fan pages Of course not, because that isn't what Network Neutrality is about. Obscure ferret jousting fan pages are not competing with Verison. However, ISPs are* often involved in various aspects of "media" production and distribution, which is a conflict of interest.

CamperBob2 9y ago

You seriously need to learn about the history of the telecoms industry, going back to the days when they did exactly what you say they're not going to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almon_Brown_Strowger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almon_Brown_Strowger Nothing is happening now that hasn't happened before. People forget, is all.

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marak830 9y ago

Actually, as to the throttling of video: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/verizon-wireless-apparently-throttles-streaming-video-to-10mbps/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/veriz...

oconnore 9y ago
Yes, they throttled Netflix and Youtube, two sites that account for ~30% and ~13% of total traffic volume, respectively. This is consistent with what I said.
- marak830 9y ago
  You are right, sorry not sure how I missed that part
- pdkl95 9y ago
  > ~30% and ~13% of total traffic volume So what? That's traffic that the ISP's customers requested. That isn't Netflix using some shared resource. Customers are paying Verison to transfer data, and if 30% of that data is NetFlix, that's fine. Throttling denies the customer the service they are paying for. Should FedEx or UPS throttle the number of Amazon packages per address they will deliver on time since Amazon represents a very large percentage of their business? (If this isn't compatible with a business model based on oversubscription, that's the ISP's problem) > No ISP is going to stop rural Montanaians from looking up Yelp reviews or visiting obscure ferret jousting fan pages Of course not, because that isn't what Network Neutrality is about. Obscure ferret jousting fan pages are not competing with Verison. However, ISPs are* often involved in various aspects of "media" production and distribution, which is a conflict of interest.