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As well as the vastly better Firefox, I've been very impressed by the new Brave browser[1]. Actually, extremely impressed. I normally do dev with Chrome for he

As well as the vastly better Firefox, I've been very impressed by the new Brave browser[1]. Actually, extremely impressed. I normally do dev with Chrome for heavy JS (even compared to new devel edition ff) and even though Brave's devtools seem to match up to an older version compared to Chrome, page updates etc are just so much faster in Brave than in Chrome. Fast renders matters a LOT when you're developing. (Btw, there's a bug in the install script if you're using Brave on Debian[2].) It's still early days and doesn't have as many features as FF and Chrome (in particular for me, Stylish is missing, but the privacy and ad blockers that I prefer are there), but, wow... rendering is faster than Chrome in the common case, or at least strongly feels that way. I also like how they're focused first and foremost on privacy and ad blocking, but also make it easy to donate to your favorite sites in place of ad revenue. It seems like a balanced approach. Brave seems to be very similar to Mozilla with its strong focus on user privacy. It's nice to see competition heating up in the browser space again. 1. https://brave.com https://brave.com 2. https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/issues/6902 https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/issues/6902

JosephLark 9y ago
Maybe I'm missing something, but my impression of Brave was that behind the scenes it was just another Chromium browser. All the same little issues I have with Chromium were present in Brave when I tried it - exact same configuration tweaks (other than privacy stuff in Chrome) I needed to make to get me to a happy state. So aren't any of the visible speedups just a matter of the native adblocking? Are you comparing the speeds to Chrome/Chromium with adblocking? Maybe Brave is more heavily customized than I thought?
- jamiesonbecker 9y ago
  Right, so it is definitely a fork from Chromium (or at least the devtools seem to match an older version of Chrome's), and agreed completely with regards to config tweaks, but I definitely see a huge speedup versus using adblockers (ABP+UBO+PB) in Chromium, including on local dev sites with no ads/privacy to block. It (at least seems to) render much, much faster. Always take non-indie benchmarks with a grain of salt, of course, but given that their CEO is the developer of JS, it's probably not too much of a stretch to imagine that this is a true or mostly-true claim from their main website page[1]: "Brave loads major news sites 2 to 8 times faster than Chrome and Safari on mobile. And Brave is 2 times faster than Chrome on desktop." I haven't tried installing chrome extensions in it yet, but if that works, then Brave is definitely my new browser. It seems simple and clean; a worthy successor to both FF and Chrome. 1. https://brave.com https://brave.com

JosephLark 9y ago

Maybe I'm missing something, but my impression of Brave was that behind the scenes it was just another Chromium browser. All the same little issues I have with Chromium were present in Brave when I tried it - exact same configuration tweaks (other than privacy stuff in Chrome) I needed to make to get me to a happy state. So aren't any of the visible speedups just a matter of the native adblocking? Are you comparing the speeds to Chrome/Chromium with adblocking? Maybe Brave is more heavily customized than I thought?

jamiesonbecker 9y ago
Right, so it is definitely a fork from Chromium (or at least the devtools seem to match an older version of Chrome's), and agreed completely with regards to config tweaks, but I definitely see a huge speedup versus using adblockers (ABP+UBO+PB) in Chromium, including on local dev sites with no ads/privacy to block. It (at least seems to) render much, much faster. Always take non-indie benchmarks with a grain of salt, of course, but given that their CEO is the developer of JS, it's probably not too much of a stretch to imagine that this is a true or mostly-true claim from their main website page[1]: "Brave loads major news sites 2 to 8 times faster than Chrome and Safari on mobile. And Brave is 2 times faster than Chrome on desktop." I haven't tried installing chrome extensions in it yet, but if that works, then Brave is definitely my new browser. It seems simple and clean; a worthy successor to both FF and Chrome. 1. https://brave.com https://brave.com