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The above poster is also neglecting to realise Mozilla is not a normal business in it for profit (as far as I understand it - correct me if I'm wrong.) https:/

by lugg 9y ago

The above poster is also neglecting to realise Mozilla is not a normal business in it for profit (as far as I understand it - correct me if I'm wrong.) https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla_Foundation_Projects https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla_Foundation_Projects The foundation has a crazy long history of funding open source and various pursuits. Comparing their style of execution to google is just rediculously unfair on so many levels.

philipov 9y ago
Not only that, but it fails to recognize how much money Google has 'wasted' on projects they went on to kill off. They have quite a reputation for it. Google just has a lot more money to 'waste' on research.
bigbugbag 9y ago
Are you confusing the not for profit mozilla foundation and the for profit mozilla corporation here ? The foundation had engaged in tax evasion over the money raised through the corporation and ended up settling with the IRS by paying a $1.5 millions fine[1], they had provisioned $15 millions for this fine, suddenly they got a few unexpected millions to spend on whatever. I agree that comparing mozilla to google makes little sense as mozilla was working for google in exchange for 85-95% of their revenue. Without google paying mozilla for their users privacy, mozilla would have had to find an actual business model and would not have had the option to wander away from their core product. On the other hand, without mozilla google would have been mostly the same though would have probably missed some data about millions of users . [1]: https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-gets-lucky-settles-irs-audit-for-1-5m/ https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-gets-lucky-settles-irs-aud...
- lugg 9y ago
  Is there a difference? Is there a reason we say Google and not ABC? The seperation is purely legal and financial, no?
  - steveklabnik 9y ago
    To your last question, yes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15409217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15409217

by lugg 9y ago

philipov 9y ago

Not only that, but it fails to recognize how much money Google has 'wasted' on projects they went on to kill off. They have quite a reputation for it. Google just has a lot more money to 'waste' on research.

bigbugbag 9y ago

Are you confusing the not for profit mozilla foundation and the for profit mozilla corporation here ? The foundation had engaged in tax evasion over the money raised through the corporation and ended up settling with the IRS by paying a $1.5 millions fine[1], they had provisioned $15 millions for this fine, suddenly they got a few unexpected millions to spend on whatever. I agree that comparing mozilla to google makes little sense as mozilla was working for google in exchange for 85-95% of their revenue. Without google paying mozilla for their users privacy, mozilla would have had to find an actual business model and would not have had the option to wander away from their core product. On the other hand, without mozilla google would have been mostly the same though would have probably missed some data about millions of users . [1]: https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-gets-lucky-settles-irs-audit-for-1-5m/ https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-gets-lucky-settles-irs-aud...

lugg 9y ago
Is there a difference? Is there a reason we say Google and not ABC? The seperation is purely legal and financial, no?
- steveklabnik 9y ago
  To your last question, yes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15409217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15409217