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Then, let us Catalans be stupid and go to extintion ourselves. We will probably be fine. If you want us to be in Spain, please seduce us instead of forbid us ev

Then, let us Catalans be stupid and go to extintion ourselves. We will probably be fine. If you want us to be in Spain, please seduce us instead of forbid us everything. I haven't heard of any new independent country asking to be part again of the former one.

pvaldes 9y ago
> if you want us to be in Spain, please seduce us Yeah, the tiresome "seduce us (with mo' fresh money)" argument again. I have a better idea, why you don't try to seduce me instead to call me thief (Spain stole us) and abuser (Spain oppress us and do not let us be free) and hit me all the time with a new surrealist occurrence (don't buy spanish products, here are a list of the evil companies that you must avoid if you want to be a good citizen)? In the last 60 years, you have been offered a lot of gifs and privileges (that by the way, I don't enjoy), and is never enough. You are never, ever, happy. Always creating drama around, like an old crazy theater lady past her prime, always demanding to be loved, but giving in return dry sarcasm and a single uncaring kiss by christmas (when there are cameras around). So thanks, but not thanks. I will pass this time. You are not so irresistible as you think and not so beautiful as you were 20 years ago. I deserve something better. > I haven't heard of any new independent country asking to be part again of the former one. This does not bother me, but there is always a first time for everything.
- kilburn 9y ago
  > In the last 60 years, you have been offered a lot of gifs and privileges (that by the way, I don't enjoy), and is never enough. Name three "gifts/privileges" that Catalonia has been given/granted and you don't enjoy, please.
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  - pvaldes 9y ago
    I don't need to, neither feel particularly inclined this afternoon to teach you about how VAT is spent, exemption of taxes since 1518, or tricks of our democracy to allow some parties to have one deputy by each 50.000 votes whereas other parties need to be supported by 500.000 voters to obtain the same results in the same election Just google it, spend a few hours reading legal documents and history of the country and will find the answer by yourself.
- stale2002 9y ago
  It sounds an awful lot like things aren't working out then. Perhaps a split is better? Then you don't have to deal with them. A vote is happening. There is nothing that the government can do to stop it unless they send in the tanks and start killing millions.
  - pvaldes 9y ago
    At this moment, I don't see any tank. Maybe you are living in your own dark fascist fantasy? Beware and let us know if you spot any zombie
    - stale2002 9y ago
      Correct. And because there are no tanks yet, the vote is moving ahead. There has certainly been some disruption, but the people are mostly still forging ahead on all fronts. The police have open fired on some of the pro independence people, sending a couple hundred to the hospital, but that is very minor in the vast scheme of things. A couple hundred pro independence people in the hospital isn't that big of a barrier. This is only the beginning. Every video of the Spanish military beating up an 80 year old lady with a ballot in hand is a propaganda Victor for the independence movement. They stop 1 person from voting, via their rubber bullets, and they create a hundred more pro independence people who were previously neutral.
      - pvaldes 9y ago
        Well played. You can exprime a lot of pro-independentist juice if you put a 80 years old lady in the position of being beaten and videotape all instead to try to defend her. Another point for the good guys. Another possibility could be separatists thinking last week or yesterday "this is stupid, some people could be hurt!, for nothing!, why we don't stop this farce before... dunno... a 80yo lady is beaten or so? I bet that the lady, or the child crying, would have appreciated that line of reasoning, but it seems that for separatists the more people hurt, the better. Curious if we think about it.
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pvaldes 9y ago

> if you want us to be in Spain, please seduce us Yeah, the tiresome "seduce us (with mo' fresh money)" argument again. I have a better idea, why you don't try to seduce me instead to call me thief (Spain stole us) and abuser (Spain oppress us and do not let us be free) and hit me all the time with a new surrealist occurrence (don't buy spanish products, here are a list of the evil companies that you must avoid if you want to be a good citizen)? In the last 60 years, you have been offered a lot of gifs and privileges (that by the way, I don't enjoy), and is never enough. You are never, ever, happy. Always creating drama around, like an old crazy theater lady past her prime, always demanding to be loved, but giving in return dry sarcasm and a single uncaring kiss by christmas (when there are cameras around). So thanks, but not thanks. I will pass this time. You are not so irresistible as you think and not so beautiful as you were 20 years ago. I deserve something better. > I haven't heard of any new independent country asking to be part again of the former one. This does not bother me, but there is always a first time for everything.

kilburn 9y ago
> In the last 60 years, you have been offered a lot of gifs and privileges (that by the way, I don't enjoy), and is never enough. Name three "gifts/privileges" that Catalonia has been given/granted and you don't enjoy, please.
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- pvaldes 9y ago
  I don't need to, neither feel particularly inclined this afternoon to teach you about how VAT is spent, exemption of taxes since 1518, or tricks of our democracy to allow some parties to have one deputy by each 50.000 votes whereas other parties need to be supported by 500.000 voters to obtain the same results in the same election Just google it, spend a few hours reading legal documents and history of the country and will find the answer by yourself.
stale2002 9y ago
It sounds an awful lot like things aren't working out then. Perhaps a split is better? Then you don't have to deal with them. A vote is happening. There is nothing that the government can do to stop it unless they send in the tanks and start killing millions.
- pvaldes 9y ago
  At this moment, I don't see any tank. Maybe you are living in your own dark fascist fantasy? Beware and let us know if you spot any zombie
  - stale2002 9y ago
    Correct. And because there are no tanks yet, the vote is moving ahead. There has certainly been some disruption, but the people are mostly still forging ahead on all fronts. The police have open fired on some of the pro independence people, sending a couple hundred to the hospital, but that is very minor in the vast scheme of things. A couple hundred pro independence people in the hospital isn't that big of a barrier. This is only the beginning. Every video of the Spanish military beating up an 80 year old lady with a ballot in hand is a propaganda Victor for the independence movement. They stop 1 person from voting, via their rubber bullets, and they create a hundred more pro independence people who were previously neutral.
    - pvaldes 9y ago
      Well played. You can exprime a lot of pro-independentist juice if you put a 80 years old lady in the position of being beaten and videotape all instead to try to defend her. Another point for the good guys. Another possibility could be separatists thinking last week or yesterday "this is stupid, some people could be hurt!, for nothing!, why we don't stop this farce before... dunno... a 80yo lady is beaten or so? I bet that the lady, or the child crying, would have appreciated that line of reasoning, but it seems that for separatists the more people hurt, the better. Curious if we think about it.
      - 9y ago