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There is an awesome book called "How to lie with statistics." I highly recommend it. Your quotes of median incomes, etc, are very much in that vein, especially

by Mz 9y ago

There is an awesome book called "How to lie with statistics." I highly recommend it. Your quotes of median incomes, etc, are very much in that vein, especially given that it is in a discussion of how to house the thousands of homeless people in LA. The history here in the US is this: We had The Great Depression in the 1930s. People were incredibly poor. This was followed by WW2. The men went off to war. The women got factory jobs. They stopped building cars when they converted the car factories to jeep factories. Luxury items like sugar were rationed. People were encouraged to grow Victory Gardens so farm food could feed the troops. The result: Two income couples with no opportunity to create babies and no means to spend all their money. Savings rate were as high as 50% during some parts of the war. The war ends. Soldiers come home. Women quit their jobs en masse to go be wives and moms. Soldiers get help purchasing houses. They get help going to college. There is both huge pent up demand for middle class housing and also the means to buy it. The entire nation rises to the occasion to roll out houses. They invent financing mechanisms, etc. Houses get built at breathtaking speed. The modern suburb is born. Their children, the Baby Boomers, reach adulthood in the 60s and 70s. SROs and boarding houses had been the standard answer for single young adults with entry level jobs. This generation had unprecedented upper class style wealth. They turned their noses up at SROs and the like. The US tore down about 80% of them. US housing stock skews strongly towards housing designed for a nuclear family. It is strongly shaped to this day by the 1950s nuclear family expectations, only on steroids for various reasons. The size of new houses has more than doubled since the 1950s and we expect a lot of amenities that were not the norm at that time. Meanwhile, demographics have diversified and moved away from the nuclear family. People are having children later. We have fewer children on average per family. We have more single adults, single parents and childless couples. Yet, our housing expectations default to 3 bedroom, 2 bath house in the burbs type housing. It doesn't even fit the demographics. We now by default expect single adults to rent a two or three bedroom place designed for a family and share it with room mates. There is damn little actually designed for single people or childless couples. Our housing is designed for a population, culture and lifestyle that mostly no longer exists. This is the crux of the problem. As I find things that actually work, I blog about it. I am actively encouraging homeless people in So Cal to leave and go to either cheaper parts of the state or go to another state entirely. Going to the Central Valley did not get me off the street, but it did improve my quality of life. Leaving the state did get me off the street. There is currently a deadly hepatitis epidemic killing homeless people in So Cal. If these people had a solution, most of them would be out of there like a bat of hell. This problem is quite dire. More actual affordable housing would not magically solve it overnight, but it would be a step in the right direction.

prostoalex 9y ago
The average single-family house in the 50s was 983 sq. ft. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5525283 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5525283 As the article further notes, "Back in the 1950s and '60s, people thought it was normal for a family to have one bathroom, or for two or three growing boys to share a bedroom." So the expectations around average square footage changed, the expectations around house internals have changed (appliances, wooden floors, A/C, cable hook-ups), expectations around the quality of building materials have changed, as well as various regulations, like fire, electric and earthquake safety codes. You're right though that price sq.ft. has increased https://www.census.gov/const/C25Ann/soldmedavgppsf.pdf https://www.census.gov/const/C25Ann/soldmedavgppsf.pdf but (a) the US averages are still slightly below 2004 levels, (b) the dollar figure there is not adjusted for inflation.
- Mz 9y ago
  The figures I remember: In the 1950s, new homes were 1200 sq ft or less and held an average of around 3.5 people. They are now over 2400 sq ft and hold an average of around 2.5 people. They also now come standard with AC, dishwashers, washer-dryer hookups, etc. In the 50s, AC was not standard, dishwashers were not standard and many homes had a washing machine but no dryer. The norm was to have a clothesline in the backyard. I have been in a house like that. My ex husband's grandparents lived in such a house. It was a two bedroom, one bath place with a washing machine and a clothesline. Dishes were washed by hand in the small kitchen. They had ceiling fans instead of AC. This was in Georgia, where AC is very much expected today. They raised two kids in that house. The kids shared a bedroom. So, families have grown smaller. Houses have grown larger and more luxurious. It is nearly impossible to find a small house with just "the basics." That is now considered substandard housing and most jurisdictions in the US have zoning laws that make it illegal to try to recreate 1950s style housing. The New Urbanism movement actively tried to recreate walkable communities similar to what we used to build. Any New Urbanist project that got built typically went in with a plan, was told it was unbuildable because of zoning laws, road width requirements, etc and then they combed through local laws and regulations and renamed things to try to get it okayed with minimal changes to the actual design. It was an uphill battle every step of the way to try to recreate something akin to 1950s style housing with small homes and a walkable landscape that wasn't completely whored out to a car centric design. The Tiny House movement puts a lot of small houses on wheels to get around minimum house size rules. And then good luck finding a place within city limits to park it. The city of Fresno recently passed a law to try to make it easier to have a tiny house. The law assumes it will be an accessory building behind a larger conventional house. It basically assumes that it is a stand alone "mother in law unit." The assumption is some relative will live in it, though you can potentially rent it out as well. Tiny houses become glorified upscale trailers. You can live in them in the middle of nowhere and you can tow them behind your truck, but trying to find land to place one legally within city limits anywhere in the US (as a primary residence) seems to be quite the challenge. Apple Valley, California has a huge minimum lot size for houses that was theoretically supposed to "preserve the rural character" of the town. No, the result was not farm houses with large vegetable gardens. The result was huge houses on huge lots. Driving through a residential neighborhood in Apple Valley is a fascinating glimpse into how our housing regulations so frequently have unintended consequences. I just want a small home in a walkable neighborhood. I don't need or want AC. I don't need or want a dishwasher. I would be happy to have a washing machine and a clothesline. This style of housing is no longer built. If you can find it at all, it was built between the 1920s and the 1950s. Such homes tend to fall into one of two categories: they have been improved and kept up to date and are now some of the most expensive real estate in the city in high demand, or they are falling apart and in a neighborhood that looks like a war zone. You may be required to bring everything up to code before you can move in.

by Mz 9y ago

prostoalex 9y ago

The average single-family house in the 50s was 983 sq. ft. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5525283 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5525283 As the article further notes, "Back in the 1950s and '60s, people thought it was normal for a family to have one bathroom, or for two or three growing boys to share a bedroom." So the expectations around average square footage changed, the expectations around house internals have changed (appliances, wooden floors, A/C, cable hook-ups), expectations around the quality of building materials have changed, as well as various regulations, like fire, electric and earthquake safety codes. You're right though that price sq.ft. has increased https://www.census.gov/const/C25Ann/soldmedavgppsf.pdf https://www.census.gov/const/C25Ann/soldmedavgppsf.pdf but (a) the US averages are still slightly below 2004 levels, (b) the dollar figure there is not adjusted for inflation.

Mz 9y ago
The figures I remember: In the 1950s, new homes were 1200 sq ft or less and held an average of around 3.5 people. They are now over 2400 sq ft and hold an average of around 2.5 people. They also now come standard with AC, dishwashers, washer-dryer hookups, etc. In the 50s, AC was not standard, dishwashers were not standard and many homes had a washing machine but no dryer. The norm was to have a clothesline in the backyard. I have been in a house like that. My ex husband's grandparents lived in such a house. It was a two bedroom, one bath place with a washing machine and a clothesline. Dishes were washed by hand in the small kitchen. They had ceiling fans instead of AC. This was in Georgia, where AC is very much expected today. They raised two kids in that house. The kids shared a bedroom. So, families have grown smaller. Houses have grown larger and more luxurious. It is nearly impossible to find a small house with just "the basics." That is now considered substandard housing and most jurisdictions in the US have zoning laws that make it illegal to try to recreate 1950s style housing. The New Urbanism movement actively tried to recreate walkable communities similar to what we used to build. Any New Urbanist project that got built typically went in with a plan, was told it was unbuildable because of zoning laws, road width requirements, etc and then they combed through local laws and regulations and renamed things to try to get it okayed with minimal changes to the actual design. It was an uphill battle every step of the way to try to recreate something akin to 1950s style housing with small homes and a walkable landscape that wasn't completely whored out to a car centric design. The Tiny House movement puts a lot of small houses on wheels to get around minimum house size rules. And then good luck finding a place within city limits to park it. The city of Fresno recently passed a law to try to make it easier to have a tiny house. The law assumes it will be an accessory building behind a larger conventional house. It basically assumes that it is a stand alone "mother in law unit." The assumption is some relative will live in it, though you can potentially rent it out as well. Tiny houses become glorified upscale trailers. You can live in them in the middle of nowhere and you can tow them behind your truck, but trying to find land to place one legally within city limits anywhere in the US (as a primary residence) seems to be quite the challenge. Apple Valley, California has a huge minimum lot size for houses that was theoretically supposed to "preserve the rural character" of the town. No, the result was not farm houses with large vegetable gardens. The result was huge houses on huge lots. Driving through a residential neighborhood in Apple Valley is a fascinating glimpse into how our housing regulations so frequently have unintended consequences. I just want a small home in a walkable neighborhood. I don't need or want AC. I don't need or want a dishwasher. I would be happy to have a washing machine and a clothesline. This style of housing is no longer built. If you can find it at all, it was built between the 1920s and the 1950s. Such homes tend to fall into one of two categories: they have been improved and kept up to date and are now some of the most expensive real estate in the city in high demand, or they are falling apart and in a neighborhood that looks like a war zone. You may be required to bring everything up to code before you can move in.