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The question couldn't be clearer. I'm not sure where the confusion comes from? Is that how bad are people in Spain informed these days? Question: Do you want C

The question couldn't be clearer. I'm not sure where the confusion comes from? Is that how bad are people in Spain informed these days? Question: Do you want Catalonia to be an independent state in the form of a republic?

jorgemf 9y ago
It doesn't state whether to be an associate state or not. Some politics want to be independent but as an associate state to Spain, that means to remain in the EU and be part of Spain for most things.
- NetStrikeForce 9y ago
  It says independent, which means "not associate".
  - jorgemf 9y ago
    But this is not what some politics defend and claim. Some say Cataluña as an independent associate state. That is why I made the question and we should have an open debate.
    - NetStrikeForce 9y ago
      I don't know where you get those ideas from. Literally no one talks about an associate state, no one. Especially after these weeks repressive reactions by the Spanish Government.
      - jorgemf 9y ago
        No one is talking about anything. The attitude of politics of both sides is really an issue, and the worst thing is that they are both supported by the population, they get more votes because of this. I find completely stupid the central government not willing to talk about this while they negotiate with them about other things and even get their support. I still want a couple of Catalans tell me what they exactly want with the independence. I find a completely mistake to be independent, because being part of something bigger where people help each other is better. But I make this question several times here in this thread and still don't have an answer yet.
        subway 9y ago
        You'll never hear them if you keep your fingers in your ears while humming your own thoughts like this.
        jorgemf 9y ago
        Are you serious? I said what I think in the 7th nested comment, I repeated 6 times I want to know what they think before saying what I think. You have to be kidding me.
        NetStrikeForce 9y ago
        > I find a completely mistake to be independent, because being part of something bigger where people help each other is better That premise does not necessarily lead to that conclusion. Ask the USSR.

jorgemf 9y ago

It doesn't state whether to be an associate state or not. Some politics want to be independent but as an associate state to Spain, that means to remain in the EU and be part of Spain for most things.

NetStrikeForce 9y ago
It says independent, which means "not associate".
- jorgemf 9y ago
  But this is not what some politics defend and claim. Some say Cataluña as an independent associate state. That is why I made the question and we should have an open debate.
  - NetStrikeForce 9y ago
    I don't know where you get those ideas from. Literally no one talks about an associate state, no one. Especially after these weeks repressive reactions by the Spanish Government.
    - jorgemf 9y ago
      No one is talking about anything. The attitude of politics of both sides is really an issue, and the worst thing is that they are both supported by the population, they get more votes because of this. I find completely stupid the central government not willing to talk about this while they negotiate with them about other things and even get their support. I still want a couple of Catalans tell me what they exactly want with the independence. I find a completely mistake to be independent, because being part of something bigger where people help each other is better. But I make this question several times here in this thread and still don't have an answer yet.
      - subway 9y ago
        You'll never hear them if you keep your fingers in your ears while humming your own thoughts like this.
        jorgemf 9y ago
        Are you serious? I said what I think in the 7th nested comment, I repeated 6 times I want to know what they think before saying what I think. You have to be kidding me.
      - NetStrikeForce 9y ago
        > I find a completely mistake to be independent, because being part of something bigger where people help each other is better That premise does not necessarily lead to that conclusion. Ask the USSR.