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Still comes bundled with Pocket. No thanks.

by chank 9y ago

NuDinNou 9y ago
Chrome comes bundled with Flash. Firefox wins here.
62747478182 9y ago
You can disable it completely in about:config
- cpeterso 9y ago
  You can also disable Pocket by clicking the new tab's gear icon and unchecking the "Recommended by Pocket" setting.
superkuh 9y ago
Even worse, it's a walled garden. You can't edit or make your own extensions without getting each change approved by Mozilla first. They say to use the alpha(dev) or unbranded versions but the former is unstable and the later has no packaging or language support.
- floatboth 9y ago
  Yes, if you want to run unsigned addons, you need Dev or Nightly. That makes sense. Not letting "normal" users accidentally install malware extensions is really good. "is unstable" isn't a good reason to avoid it. I've been using Nightly as my daily (heh) driver for a long time. It's been awesome. BTW, approval is really fast now: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/09/21/review-wait-times-get-shorter/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/09/21/review-wait-times...
  - superkuh 9y ago
    > Not letting "normal" users accidentally install I strongly disagree. Browser functionality for everyone shouldn't be gimped to protect a small subset of users from themselves. >"is unstable" isn't a good reason to avoid it. I'm not holding a controversial opinion in thinking that alphas are generally buggy for significant subset of the userbase. I get that it might work fine for you but there's a reason aurora isn't release.
    - floatboth 9y ago
      "small subset"?! Most Firefox users don't install addons at all. The number of people who want to install addons from random untrusted places is really tiny. Developer Edition is not alpha.
      - superkuh 9y ago
        Well, you're wrong. Developer is taking the place of aurora/alpha as the below quote from https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Developer_Edition https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Developer_Editio... shows, >Firefox Developer Edition replaces the Aurora channel in the Firefox Release Process. Like Aurora, features will land in the Developer Edition every six weeks, after they have stabilized in Nightly builds.
        floatboth 9y ago
        Sure I guess you could call Aurora "alpha" (but it wasn't named "Alpha" for a reason)… the point is, they're so confident in the stability of the "alpha" they're offering it as something to be used by, well, all developers. And they should be confident. In the last year or so, Nightly only broke for me once.
- 482794793792894 9y ago
  Don't know what you mean with packaging support, but you can install language packs into the Unbranded Builds to get the different languages.
  - superkuh 9y ago
    No repository, anywhere, has unbranded Firefox packaged up and with updates. If you want to run it that means manually downloading it and changing system config by hand each time there's a patch or version increment.
nnethercote 9y ago
Mozilla acquire Pocket a while back. That might address your concerns, depending on what those concerns are.

Still comes bundled with Pocket. No thanks.

by chank 9y ago

Still comes bundled with Pocket. No thanks.

NuDinNou 9y ago

Chrome comes bundled with Flash. Firefox wins here.

62747478182 9y ago

You can disable it completely in about:config

cpeterso 9y ago
You can also disable Pocket by clicking the new tab's gear icon and unchecking the "Recommended by Pocket" setting.

superkuh 9y ago

Even worse, it's a walled garden. You can't edit or make your own extensions without getting each change approved by Mozilla first. They say to use the alpha(dev) or unbranded versions but the former is unstable and the later has no packaging or language support.

floatboth 9y ago
Yes, if you want to run unsigned addons, you need Dev or Nightly. That makes sense. Not letting "normal" users accidentally install malware extensions is really good. "is unstable" isn't a good reason to avoid it. I've been using Nightly as my daily (heh) driver for a long time. It's been awesome. BTW, approval is really fast now: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/09/21/review-wait-times-get-shorter/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/09/21/review-wait-times...
- superkuh 9y ago
  > Not letting "normal" users accidentally install I strongly disagree. Browser functionality for everyone shouldn't be gimped to protect a small subset of users from themselves. >"is unstable" isn't a good reason to avoid it. I'm not holding a controversial opinion in thinking that alphas are generally buggy for significant subset of the userbase. I get that it might work fine for you but there's a reason aurora isn't release.
  - floatboth 9y ago
    "small subset"?! Most Firefox users don't install addons at all. The number of people who want to install addons from random untrusted places is really tiny. Developer Edition is not alpha.
    - superkuh 9y ago
      Well, you're wrong. Developer is taking the place of aurora/alpha as the below quote from https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Developer_Edition https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Developer_Editio... shows, >Firefox Developer Edition replaces the Aurora channel in the Firefox Release Process. Like Aurora, features will land in the Developer Edition every six weeks, after they have stabilized in Nightly builds.
      - floatboth 9y ago
        Sure I guess you could call Aurora "alpha" (but it wasn't named "Alpha" for a reason)… the point is, they're so confident in the stability of the "alpha" they're offering it as something to be used by, well, all developers. And they should be confident. In the last year or so, Nightly only broke for me once.
482794793792894 9y ago
Don't know what you mean with packaging support, but you can install language packs into the Unbranded Builds to get the different languages.
- superkuh 9y ago
  No repository, anywhere, has unbranded Firefox packaged up and with updates. If you want to run it that means manually downloading it and changing system config by hand each time there's a patch or version increment.

nnethercote 9y ago

Mozilla acquire Pocket a while back. That might address your concerns, depending on what those concerns are.