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I don't really understand the MariaDB love around here. If you look at actual production usage, MySQL gets the lion's share, looking at the customers each lists

by cwyers 9y ago

I don't really understand the MariaDB love around here. If you look at actual production usage, MySQL gets the lion's share, looking at the customers each lists at their website. Oracle has been surprisingly benevolent as stewards of MySQL. That Business Source License that MariaDB put forward for new code at one point[1] looked like something I think would have cost an awful lot of goodwill if anyone else had used it. 1) https://mariadb.com/bsl-faq-mariadb https://mariadb.com/bsl-faq-mariadb

jzawodn 9y ago
"surprisingly benevolent" eh? I'm guessing you've not been a paying customer with outstanding bug reports?
- cwyers 9y ago
  Given what I expected Oracle to do to MySQL, if being late on fixing bug reports under a support contract is the worst of their sins, then I stand by my statement.
noncoml 9y ago
Actually: - MariaDB MaxScale 2.0 will be under the BSL. - MariaDB Server will continue to be licensed under GPL in perpetuity, while its connectors will continue to be under the LGPL. To be honest I cannot blame Monty. Google and Facebook were built on MySQL and probably didn't give back as much as he thought would be a fair shar. I guess he doesn't want to see this happening again.
- stephenr 9y ago
  He’s free to do what he wants with his company. The problem is all these people going into headless chicken mode about how Oracle could discontinue the open source licence of the “original” MySQL, so they’re embracing MariaDB (the company) because it’s run by Monty so it must be open source friendly. You can use/support MariaDB all you want but let’s not pretend they’re great bastions of open source compared to Oracle in the MySQL realm.
  - noncoml 9y ago
    The grand parent made it sound as if they changed the MariaDB server license, so I wanted to make a clarification that this is not the case.
    - stephenr 9y ago
      Not really. S/he referenced the BSL, which MariaDB (the company) absolutely uses for it's MaxScale product.
      - noncoml 9y ago
        > That Business Source License that MariaDB put forward for new code at one point As I said, I just made a clarification on that “new code” means other products and not MariaDB server. Just for the record I am not a MySQL-based DB user, so I don’t really care at all about MariaDB or BSL. My license of choice for releasing my code is AGPL.

by cwyers 9y ago

jzawodn 9y ago

"surprisingly benevolent" eh? I'm guessing you've not been a paying customer with outstanding bug reports?

cwyers 9y ago
Given what I expected Oracle to do to MySQL, if being late on fixing bug reports under a support contract is the worst of their sins, then I stand by my statement.

noncoml 9y ago

Actually: - MariaDB MaxScale 2.0 will be under the BSL. - MariaDB Server will continue to be licensed under GPL in perpetuity, while its connectors will continue to be under the LGPL. To be honest I cannot blame Monty. Google and Facebook were built on MySQL and probably didn't give back as much as he thought would be a fair shar. I guess he doesn't want to see this happening again.

stephenr 9y ago
He’s free to do what he wants with his company. The problem is all these people going into headless chicken mode about how Oracle could discontinue the open source licence of the “original” MySQL, so they’re embracing MariaDB (the company) because it’s run by Monty so it must be open source friendly. You can use/support MariaDB all you want but let’s not pretend they’re great bastions of open source compared to Oracle in the MySQL realm.
- noncoml 9y ago
  The grand parent made it sound as if they changed the MariaDB server license, so I wanted to make a clarification that this is not the case.
  - stephenr 9y ago
    Not really. S/he referenced the BSL, which MariaDB (the company) absolutely uses for it's MaxScale product.
    - noncoml 9y ago
      > That Business Source License that MariaDB put forward for new code at one point As I said, I just made a clarification on that “new code” means other products and not MariaDB server. Just for the record I am not a MySQL-based DB user, so I don’t really care at all about MariaDB or BSL. My license of choice for releasing my code is AGPL.