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> Countries are not people, they don't respect or love each other, they oscillate between peace and war. The history of every major nation is a history of viole
by wav-part 9y ago
> Countries are not people, they don't respect or love each other, they oscillate between peace and war. The history of every major nation is a history of violence and conquest, not freely entered union.
IMO that has not been true for last 70 yrs. Point to me a war that has been People vs People.
The fact of the current world is People Are Sovereign. If some >=N people domiciled in continuous region wants self-determination, thats their human right.
- kgwgk 9y agoI suspect that those who want to separate Catalonia from the rest of the country wouldn’t agree with the human right of the people in the Barcelona metropolitan are to choose by themselves their own future...
- NetStrikeForce 9y agoThey do agree though. Barcelona, Aran, whatever. You name it. Just start the political movement and it'll be respected. I think it's a fair ask.
- euyyn 9y agoIt won't be respected by all, not even by all ERC politicians. Don't fall into the trap of thinking Catalonia is somehow free of hypocrites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnMA7KdGxn0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnMA7KdGxn0
- NetStrikeForce 9y agoOk. By the way, can I get your crystal ball? There's this lottery thing...
- euyyn 9y agoYour mocking argument is that only magicians can expect people to maintain their views?
- NetStrikeForce 9y agoMy mocking argument is that you're making a wild guess. Aran has its rights explicitly recognised by Catalan Parliament, including their self determination rights, right now: https://cat.elpais.com/cat/2015/01/23/catalunya/1422013790_558846.html https://cat.elpais.com/cat/2015/01/23/catalunya/1422013790_5... Rahola hasn't been a politician for decades. ERC is much better than it was with her and Angel Colom.