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If you're actually depressed, go see a professional.

phoe-krk 9y ago
Seeing a professional is not an all-in-one solution. Often small tricks like that mean the difference between having something done and not having it done.
- dogruck 9y ago
  I think of depression as the big D Depression, which is a medical illness. A doctor is required. But sure, if you're just bummed out by life's latest trial, then reach into the standard bag of little tricks.
  - phoe-krk 9y ago
    What I meant was, the big D Depression requires medical treatment, that's correct. But medical treatment won't solve everything.
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asteli 9y ago
have you had to do this? there's a catch-22 here in that depression makes it way harder to invest the time in finding professional help.
- dogruck 9y ago
  Not personally. I've lost 2 loved ones to it. Just because it's hard to seek help doesn't mean that it's incorrect.
- mratzloff 9y ago
  If it's too hard, ask someone who cares about you to help you find someone.
DanBC 9y ago
Medication is moderately effective. (It's more effective for severe depression. It seems to be less effective for less severe depression.) The gold standard talking therapy - cognitive behaviour therapy - is also moderately effective. England is running a huge uncontrolled experiment, and their numbers are available here: http://www.content.digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB23831 http://www.content.digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB23831 > This statistical release makes available the most recent Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) monthly and quarterly data, including activity, waiting times, and outcomes such as recovery. > IAPT is run by the NHS in England and offers NICE-approved therapies for treating people with depression or anxiety. > Key facts > In January 2017 there were: > • 126,297 new referrals > • 85,001 referrals entered treatment > • 45,897 referrals finished a course of treatment, of which: > • 90.2 per cent waited less than 6 weeks and 98.7 per cent waited less than 18 weeks to enter treatment > • 42,729 started treatment at caseness, with 50.1 per cent moving to recovery Depression is likely to be an umbrella term covering different forms of illness. "Actually depressed" will include people who have reactive depression. It will also include people with depression that responds well to lifestyle changes, but not so well to medical intervention.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 9y ago
In my experience, "professionals" are incredibly bad at treating depression. They can treat some of the symptoms with an efficacy rate slightly higher than placebo, and with high remission rates, but are pretty much completely useless outside of that. If I had to guess why, it's because we don't have a good model for what depression really is and why it happens.

Seeing a professional is not an all-in-one solution. Often small tricks like that mean the difference between having something done and not having it done.

dogruck 9y ago
I think of depression as the big D Depression, which is a medical illness. A doctor is required. But sure, if you're just bummed out by life's latest trial, then reach into the standard bag of little tricks.
- phoe-krk 9y ago
  What I meant was, the big D Depression requires medical treatment, that's correct. But medical treatment won't solve everything.

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asteli 9y ago

have you had to do this? there's a catch-22 here in that depression makes it way harder to invest the time in finding professional help.

dogruck 9y ago
Not personally. I've lost 2 loved ones to it. Just because it's hard to seek help doesn't mean that it's incorrect.
mratzloff 9y ago
If it's too hard, ask someone who cares about you to help you find someone.

DanBC 9y ago

Medication is moderately effective. (It's more effective for severe depression. It seems to be less effective for less severe depression.) The gold standard talking therapy - cognitive behaviour therapy - is also moderately effective. England is running a huge uncontrolled experiment, and their numbers are available here: http://www.content.digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB23831 http://www.content.digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB23831 > This statistical release makes available the most recent Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) monthly and quarterly data, including activity, waiting times, and outcomes such as recovery. > IAPT is run by the NHS in England and offers NICE-approved therapies for treating people with depression or anxiety. > Key facts > In January 2017 there were: > • 126,297 new referrals > • 85,001 referrals entered treatment > • 45,897 referrals finished a course of treatment, of which: > • 90.2 per cent waited less than 6 weeks and 98.7 per cent waited less than 18 weeks to enter treatment > • 42,729 started treatment at caseness, with 50.1 per cent moving to recovery Depression is likely to be an umbrella term covering different forms of illness. "Actually depressed" will include people who have reactive depression. It will also include people with depression that responds well to lifestyle changes, but not so well to medical intervention.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 9y ago

In my experience, "professionals" are incredibly bad at treating depression. They can treat some of the symptoms with an efficacy rate slightly higher than placebo, and with high remission rates, but are pretty much completely useless outside of that. If I had to guess why, it's because we don't have a good model for what depression really is and why it happens.