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You know what is worse then the open office plan? The fact that large numbers of people loathe it and yet do nothing about it except moan on the internet. Peo
by WhatIsDukkha 9y ago
You know what is worse then the open office plan?
The fact that large numbers of people loathe it and yet do nothing about it except moan on the internet.
People don't organize themselves and their coworkers to even ask for better things.
- unionstrong 9y agoYou ever try organizing a bunch of 20-somethings who make $90,000 per year and buy food from robot bodegas? You'd have better luck getting RMS to use Windows.
- yahna 9y agoah yes, it's the 20-somethings. It's always the 20-somethings.
- unionstrong 9y agoI'm making a point. Software developers, for some reason (maybe it's the pay, the benefits, the mobility, the ignorance of history, or some combination thereof), seem very resistant to organizing. It's easier to complain than be the only person in your office seen as a problem because you're fighting against some trendy, money-saving bullshit.
- unionstrong 9y agoAlso, I'm a 20-something, so...
- watwut 9y agoOpen office is bad for general productivity of all, but organizing against it is bad specifically for your own career and salary. Good negotiators tend to go for their own salaries, interesting projects, better positions etc etc etc while pushing against open office (or other popular corporate must have) makes their position for the above weaker. Anonymous venting is safer and feels good. Now you know.
- jimbo999 9y ago"Good negotiators tend to go for their own salaries, interesting projects" is a general rule in life too right? I can work in an open office plan when i set my own hours and work remotely or in a private space (i'll be using this space for 4 hours every day seems to work for me) As long as you establish this upfront and it is written down into your contract.