5 ms·

I am so far in at step number 7 at my current place, i should have left months ago. The worst part is most people here are at step 7. The only reason I haven't

by volkk 9y ago

I am so far in at step number 7 at my current place, i should have left months ago. The worst part is most people here are at step 7. The only reason I haven't left yet is because interviewing is actually worse than being here, and that's saying a lot. Slight tangent, but I'm always jealous of my friends who have to interview for new jobs (non engineers) and have to wonder why they're so nervous. They don't have to sit there and code on a whiteboard in front of 4 uninterested developers for 4 hours straight, and then be rejected for unknown reasons so that you can't even fix the potential gap in knowledge you might have. /rant

megamindbrian 9y ago
It's not if you cease to care about the outcome. It's a numbers game. Apply for everything and everywhere that looks like you could get interested and track everyone you talk to. Recruiters use communication management software for this why shouldn't you.
beaconstudios 9y ago
you have to whiteboard code for hours as part of your interviews? And this is common where you live? Is this a California thing?
- BinaryIdiot 9y ago
  It's pretty common for developer positions regardless of where you live (at least in the United States). When I was on the east coast and when I moved to the west coast, every single interview consisted of hours and hours and hours of whiteboarding. Some of the better companies had you whiteboard something you'll run into on a normal basis (like drawing up how you'd architect a RESTful API). But most of them was "here is this CS problem that you'll either never have to deal with on the job or can look up in 2 seconds because it'll be easy to recognize; now whiteboard it up with zero help from the internet".
- volkk 9y ago
  i'm in NYC and its common at every big company that pays well
- sawmurai 9y ago
  This seems to be a US thing ... I had to solve a problem in a given time frame at two interviews at two different companies ... no one watching - but available for questions - internet access, no restriction. Like ... a real World scenario. No idea why whiteboard interviews were / are a thing. Edit: based in Switzerland
  - cholantesh 9y ago
    How much time, and were you compensated?
    - sawmurai 9y ago
      4h each, no compensation
Wonnk13 9y ago
I too get paid six figures to read HN and nothing more. Interviewing this winter is going to feel like running again for the first time in a year (painful!!).
mcguire 9y ago
"I am so far in at step number 7 at my current place, i should have left months ago. The worst part is most people here are at step 7. The only reason I haven't left yet is because interviewing is actually worse than being here, and that's saying a lot." Be careful. If you stay there long enough, and the feelings about interviewing get strong enough[1], the only road to maintaining your self-respect is to quit the game. With some luck, I won't outlive my savings. [1] Ok, interviewing is unpleasant. But the knowledge that the next job is only going to be better until I know what is going wrong kills me.

by volkk 9y ago

megamindbrian 9y ago

It's not if you cease to care about the outcome. It's a numbers game. Apply for everything and everywhere that looks like you could get interested and track everyone you talk to. Recruiters use communication management software for this why shouldn't you.

beaconstudios 9y ago

you have to whiteboard code for hours as part of your interviews? And this is common where you live? Is this a California thing?

BinaryIdiot 9y ago
It's pretty common for developer positions regardless of where you live (at least in the United States). When I was on the east coast and when I moved to the west coast, every single interview consisted of hours and hours and hours of whiteboarding. Some of the better companies had you whiteboard something you'll run into on a normal basis (like drawing up how you'd architect a RESTful API). But most of them was "here is this CS problem that you'll either never have to deal with on the job or can look up in 2 seconds because it'll be easy to recognize; now whiteboard it up with zero help from the internet".
volkk 9y ago
i'm in NYC and its common at every big company that pays well
sawmurai 9y ago
This seems to be a US thing ... I had to solve a problem in a given time frame at two interviews at two different companies ... no one watching - but available for questions - internet access, no restriction. Like ... a real World scenario. No idea why whiteboard interviews were / are a thing. Edit: based in Switzerland
- cholantesh 9y ago
  How much time, and were you compensated?
  - sawmurai 9y ago
    4h each, no compensation

Wonnk13 9y ago

I too get paid six figures to read HN and nothing more. Interviewing this winter is going to feel like running again for the first time in a year (painful!!).

mcguire 9y ago

"I am so far in at step number 7 at my current place, i should have left months ago. The worst part is most people here are at step 7. The only reason I haven't left yet is because interviewing is actually worse than being here, and that's saying a lot." Be careful. If you stay there long enough, and the feelings about interviewing get strong enough[1], the only road to maintaining your self-respect is to quit the game. With some luck, I won't outlive my savings. [1] Ok, interviewing is unpleasant. But the knowledge that the next job is only going to be better until I know what is going wrong kills me.