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The article has one false assumption, "that IDERA is a company that focuses on SQL & other IT performance tools". It's not. They started focusing on developer

The article has one false assumption, "that IDERA is a company that focuses on SQL & other IT performance tools". It's not. They started focusing on developer tools in 2015, acquiring Embarcadero (Delphi and C++Builder.) Disclosure: I work there. So I know that they are more than the article says ;) I personally would suggest waiting and seeing what happens. Usually when there is an acquisition it is a good opportunity to correct mistakes the previous owner made. I'd suggest the author of this article actually contact Idera, let them know his thoughts, rather than posting a blog only. There are real people at the company and they'll read feedback, and now is a good time.

outoftacos 9y ago
It's great that you work there, but that does not necessarily mean you know more about the place than someone who does not. So tired of this line of argument being used, especially to defend companies like Google and Facebook. Employees are often the least informed of anyone.
truthlaidbear 9y ago
IDERA fired the entire Ext JS dev team yesterday.
exhilaration 9y ago
There's a dead comment below yours that says "IDERA fired the entire Ext JS dev team yesterday" -- is that true or false? Why was it downvoted to oblivion? Edit: apparently it's true: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15366051 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15366051
- vintagedave 9y ago
  > "There's a dead comment below yours ... is that true or false?" I do not know. I don't work in that part and couldn't comment if I did. I'm only commenting to point out that Idera does indeed focus on dev tools, where the article thought it didn't. FWIW, Delphi and C++Builder are still going strong under Idera.
- joelennon 9y ago
  I imagine because there was no source to back up the claim. There's definitely been an exodus of staff from the company in recent days, but it's not clear what the terms were. For some tweets from former Sencha staff who have departed over the past few days see my comment on another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15365797 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15365797 Edit: It certainly looks as though the entire team was let go based on the LinkedIn post you linked to in your edit.
- asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y ago
  truthlaidbear is shadowbanned...
- Joeri 9y ago
  This exchange is pretty much what it felt like to be in the ExtJS community after jack slocum exited. The sencha people would make grand claims about the amazing things they would do for the community, then do essentially the opposite, and afterwards remain mute to all criticism. Nice to see that the Idera acquisition hasn’t changed anything.
  - buckyball 9y ago
    > it felt like to be in the ExtJS community after jack slocum exited I've to admit that, on some rather rare occasions, I'm thinking about Jack Slocum and how he gave away/was taken away that thing that once was a truely remarkable, changeing lib for js, at least if you take into account when extjs was released. And I wonder what would have happen to him if he invented something like extjs in our venture capital and crowdfounding times.
    - netghost 9y ago
      Oh those were pretty venture capital times as well.
- janlukacs 9y ago
  if anyone of the people let go is interested in remote work (we're based in Europe) on an Ext project please get in touch at https://www.paymoapp.com/contact/ https://www.paymoapp.com/contact/
- magicalhippo 9y ago
  This is IDERA's way of operating. They're doing the same to Delphi. I've talked to the Delphi product manager about this. He said their way of doing things is to hire contractors on a (mostly) per-bug or per-feature basis, rather than having the people in-house as employees. We'll see how that turns out.
asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y ago
@truthlaidbear you're shadowbanned

outoftacos 9y ago

It's great that you work there, but that does not necessarily mean you know more about the place than someone who does not. So tired of this line of argument being used, especially to defend companies like Google and Facebook. Employees are often the least informed of anyone.

truthlaidbear 9y ago

IDERA fired the entire Ext JS dev team yesterday.

exhilaration 9y ago

There's a dead comment below yours that says "IDERA fired the entire Ext JS dev team yesterday" -- is that true or false? Why was it downvoted to oblivion? Edit: apparently it's true: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15366051 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15366051

vintagedave 9y ago
> "There's a dead comment below yours ... is that true or false?" I do not know. I don't work in that part and couldn't comment if I did. I'm only commenting to point out that Idera does indeed focus on dev tools, where the article thought it didn't. FWIW, Delphi and C++Builder are still going strong under Idera.
joelennon 9y ago
I imagine because there was no source to back up the claim. There's definitely been an exodus of staff from the company in recent days, but it's not clear what the terms were. For some tweets from former Sencha staff who have departed over the past few days see my comment on another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15365797 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15365797 Edit: It certainly looks as though the entire team was let go based on the LinkedIn post you linked to in your edit.
asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y ago
truthlaidbear is shadowbanned...
Joeri 9y ago
This exchange is pretty much what it felt like to be in the ExtJS community after jack slocum exited. The sencha people would make grand claims about the amazing things they would do for the community, then do essentially the opposite, and afterwards remain mute to all criticism. Nice to see that the Idera acquisition hasn’t changed anything.
- buckyball 9y ago
  > it felt like to be in the ExtJS community after jack slocum exited I've to admit that, on some rather rare occasions, I'm thinking about Jack Slocum and how he gave away/was taken away that thing that once was a truely remarkable, changeing lib for js, at least if you take into account when extjs was released. And I wonder what would have happen to him if he invented something like extjs in our venture capital and crowdfounding times.
  - netghost 9y ago
    Oh those were pretty venture capital times as well.
janlukacs 9y ago
if anyone of the people let go is interested in remote work (we're based in Europe) on an Ext project please get in touch at https://www.paymoapp.com/contact/ https://www.paymoapp.com/contact/
magicalhippo 9y ago
This is IDERA's way of operating. They're doing the same to Delphi. I've talked to the Delphi product manager about this. He said their way of doing things is to hire contractors on a (mostly) per-bug or per-feature basis, rather than having the people in-house as employees. We'll see how that turns out.

asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y ago

@truthlaidbear you're shadowbanned