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It's a multinational corporation, I don't see a problem with it on a surface level since they have no real obligation to maintain some arbitrary percentage of A

It's a multinational corporation, I don't see a problem with it on a surface level since they have no real obligation to maintain some arbitrary percentage of American workers. The current climate of companies needing to continually push down cost to compete is the new normal and there will be various ramifications as further globalization opens up more cost saving opportunities. Maybe it will hit a turning point where we reevaluate how the health of firms are gauged but I doubt it.

crispyambulance 9y ago
The thing that bothers me is not so much that technical and implementation work goes straight to India and manufacturing goes to China, Mexico, etc. The thing that bothers me is that there's so many goddamn "project management professionals" state-side. It's like now students are coming out of college and going straight into project management doing bullshit work. American industry is in a downward spiral, we're training our competitors. These "low-cost-centers" are going to eat our lunch at some point in the future. They will be lean, efficient, creative, business savvy, and ready for anything. In the United states we'll all just be a bunch of useless PM's and supply chain specialists who can barely do more than work a phone. It will be like taking candy from a baby. Of course the execs that forced all this will be retired and living filthy rich by then.
- southphillyman 9y ago
  Ha, I have a MIS BA actually. Most of my former classmates took the PM/BA route post graduation and generally all are successful according to Linkedin including a guy who runs his own investment bank and another pretty high up at Amazon apparently. I think so many people go that route because people who can "speak tech" and "speak business" are incredibly valuable now days. At least that's the reasoning that sold me on it, despite me now being almost completely technical. I have personally seen individuals on the same team with similar skills have careers diverge dramatically because one person could present in front of a room and another couldn't. The PM types are on the front lines and get all the credit because they are "selling" the product or business. I get why it's attractive to some.
majewsky 9y ago
> The current climate of companies needing to continually push down cost to compete is the new normal In which reality is that a "new normal"? Companies have always been about profit maximization. The only thing that's changed is that we let them get away with more than we used to.
- chroem- 9y ago
  >In which reality is that a "new normal"? This one. It used to be that you would boost profits by innnovating and launching a new product line, not liquidating business segments. Instead of focusing on growth, corporate America is now preoccupied with trying to squeeze water from a stone. IBM has sold off countless viable profit centers in the interest of "streamlining" to the point at which there isn't much left of the company's former product line.

crispyambulance 9y ago

The thing that bothers me is not so much that technical and implementation work goes straight to India and manufacturing goes to China, Mexico, etc. The thing that bothers me is that there's so many goddamn "project management professionals" state-side. It's like now students are coming out of college and going straight into project management doing bullshit work. American industry is in a downward spiral, we're training our competitors. These "low-cost-centers" are going to eat our lunch at some point in the future. They will be lean, efficient, creative, business savvy, and ready for anything. In the United states we'll all just be a bunch of useless PM's and supply chain specialists who can barely do more than work a phone. It will be like taking candy from a baby. Of course the execs that forced all this will be retired and living filthy rich by then.

southphillyman 9y ago
Ha, I have a MIS BA actually. Most of my former classmates took the PM/BA route post graduation and generally all are successful according to Linkedin including a guy who runs his own investment bank and another pretty high up at Amazon apparently. I think so many people go that route because people who can "speak tech" and "speak business" are incredibly valuable now days. At least that's the reasoning that sold me on it, despite me now being almost completely technical. I have personally seen individuals on the same team with similar skills have careers diverge dramatically because one person could present in front of a room and another couldn't. The PM types are on the front lines and get all the credit because they are "selling" the product or business. I get why it's attractive to some.

majewsky 9y ago

> The current climate of companies needing to continually push down cost to compete is the new normal In which reality is that a "new normal"? Companies have always been about profit maximization. The only thing that's changed is that we let them get away with more than we used to.

chroem- 9y ago
>In which reality is that a "new normal"? This one. It used to be that you would boost profits by innnovating and launching a new product line, not liquidating business segments. Instead of focusing on growth, corporate America is now preoccupied with trying to squeeze water from a stone. IBM has sold off countless viable profit centers in the interest of "streamlining" to the point at which there isn't much left of the company's former product line.