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My tentative, loosely held decision to not enter the US for any reason has become surprisingly easier to justify as time goes on.

vidarh 9y ago
Yes, I used to visit a lot for business, and would love to go back on holiday too, but at this rate I'm not sure I want to. So far it's mostly been that I don't really have a compelling reason to visit, and it's just been tipping the scales in favor of other vacation locations etc., but the more stuff like this, the less attractive it gets. It doesn't even need to affect me directly - it just contributes to an overall impression of not being welcome.
- brentm 9y ago
  The majority of people in the US disagree with everything going on right now and we welcome everyone. We will right the ship in the next 2-3 years.
  - vidarh 9y ago
    I hope so. I've never had anything but great experiences when visiting the US in the past, so I it'd be a shame to keep away over something like this.
  - fiblye 9y ago
    Honestly, as an American, I wouldn't be so hopeful. People were 100% sure things would turn out differently just a year ago, and anyone who said differently was openly mocked for being delusional. Things are going to get far worse before they get better. Even then, just thinking a different president will fix anything is part of the problem.
    - brentm 9y ago
      A toxic culture starts from the top. DJT's seeming enjoyment of the driving of division between parties (and even within his own) is part of the problem. He is not the only problem and removing him isn't a cure but a hopeful/forward looking leader (from either party) doing everything he/she can to positive push the people together would be better for the country.
      - fiblye 9y ago
        The problems started long ago. It's all too convenient to in any way imply a presidential switch will have any effect on it.
  - CaptSpify 9y ago
    As an American, I'm not sure I agree. This ship has been sinking for a long time, and I don't see much pressure from anyone to right it.
    - brentm 9y ago
      Besides the culture wars and this current (in my opinion) backward looking view on immigration I am not sure I'd agree that the ship is sinking. Overall things are good, there is just a lot of negativity & division that I think that is being driven by profitable propaganda on both sides.
  - gizmodo59 9y ago
    See the problem here is that many think this is happening due to the current administration but that is not even remotely true. Irrespective of which administration it is red or blue, this is inevitable.
    - brentm 9y ago
      There is a real problem of profitable propaganda that the internet & unlimited media consumption has created. People get very excited over immigration and other hot button political issues and many exploit the people and the issues for personal gain. Regardless of who the president is profitable propaganda will divide the country. The current administration validates these otherwise fringe views and magnifies the problem. DJT makes no attempt to heal the relationships between liberals & conservatives and instead really seems to enjoy driving division.
watty 9y ago
Ah, yes - wouldn't want the American government to look at your public profile information which you voluntarily posted online.
- m3rc 9y ago
  Why don't you post links to every single social media account you own here? And then we can go through them all and see what we find, and then we'll store it for use later. Make sure you don't leave any out.

vidarh 9y ago

Yes, I used to visit a lot for business, and would love to go back on holiday too, but at this rate I'm not sure I want to. So far it's mostly been that I don't really have a compelling reason to visit, and it's just been tipping the scales in favor of other vacation locations etc., but the more stuff like this, the less attractive it gets. It doesn't even need to affect me directly - it just contributes to an overall impression of not being welcome.

brentm 9y ago
The majority of people in the US disagree with everything going on right now and we welcome everyone. We will right the ship in the next 2-3 years.
- vidarh 9y ago
  I hope so. I've never had anything but great experiences when visiting the US in the past, so I it'd be a shame to keep away over something like this.
- fiblye 9y ago
  Honestly, as an American, I wouldn't be so hopeful. People were 100% sure things would turn out differently just a year ago, and anyone who said differently was openly mocked for being delusional. Things are going to get far worse before they get better. Even then, just thinking a different president will fix anything is part of the problem.
  - brentm 9y ago
    A toxic culture starts from the top. DJT's seeming enjoyment of the driving of division between parties (and even within his own) is part of the problem. He is not the only problem and removing him isn't a cure but a hopeful/forward looking leader (from either party) doing everything he/she can to positive push the people together would be better for the country.
    - fiblye 9y ago
      The problems started long ago. It's all too convenient to in any way imply a presidential switch will have any effect on it.
- CaptSpify 9y ago
  As an American, I'm not sure I agree. This ship has been sinking for a long time, and I don't see much pressure from anyone to right it.
  - brentm 9y ago
    Besides the culture wars and this current (in my opinion) backward looking view on immigration I am not sure I'd agree that the ship is sinking. Overall things are good, there is just a lot of negativity & division that I think that is being driven by profitable propaganda on both sides.
- gizmodo59 9y ago
  See the problem here is that many think this is happening due to the current administration but that is not even remotely true. Irrespective of which administration it is red or blue, this is inevitable.
  - brentm 9y ago
    There is a real problem of profitable propaganda that the internet & unlimited media consumption has created. People get very excited over immigration and other hot button political issues and many exploit the people and the issues for personal gain. Regardless of who the president is profitable propaganda will divide the country. The current administration validates these otherwise fringe views and magnifies the problem. DJT makes no attempt to heal the relationships between liberals & conservatives and instead really seems to enjoy driving division.

watty 9y ago

Ah, yes - wouldn't want the American government to look at your public profile information which you voluntarily posted online.

m3rc 9y ago
Why don't you post links to every single social media account you own here? And then we can go through them all and see what we find, and then we'll store it for use later. Make sure you don't leave any out.