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"Micro's number one feature is being easy to install (it's just a static binary with no dependencies) and easy to use." Ok after reading that one sentence I ju

by ssijak 9y ago

"Micro's number one feature is being easy to install (it's just a static binary with no dependencies) and easy to use." Ok after reading that one sentence I just closed the page. Why would I want an editor whose number one feature is "easy to install"? Like any other editor is hard to install by the way.

rkangel 9y ago
The main reason that Vi is the tool I use to edit config files is that I know for certain that Vi will be available on any normal Linux platform I'm dealing with - nothing to install. Any new text editor isn't going to have the benefit - Vi has a 40 year headstart. Making it easy to run it standalone, without needing loads of dependencies (and therefore without needing to be in a package manager) makes it a much more useful tool. I could just SCP it across into my home directory and run it to do my work.
cup-of-tea 9y ago
Very ignorant comment. Many people work across multiple machines (hundreds) which they do not own and cannot spend time "setting up" on each one. "Easy to install" means one can start editing with it in seconds. Do you really think compiling a local copy of emacs or vim on some strange machine counts as "easy to install"?
- closeparen 9y ago
  Why? I can see working on a handful of remote machines, because it's easier to set things up manually vs. set up a configuration management system at small scale. Otherwise you're editing Puppet manifests in a local text editor. What's the use case for editing files on hundreds of different machines?
- ssijak 9y ago
  Compiling vim? Where do you not have Vim by default? Or could not install it with the default systems package manager? I seriously did not ever login into a system that does not had vim installed, excluding windows obviously, but how many of us have windows servers to manage..
  - cup-of-tea 9y ago
    I've certainly logged on to places without vim. They probably have vi, though.
    - masukomi 9y ago
      unless you're on a vax machine or something similarly ancient anything that says vi is actually vim.
      - BenjiWiebe 9y ago
        Well, it's usually a trinmed down copy of vim, right? I just do a quick alias vim=vi and carry on.
loup-vaillant 9y ago
If you have the time to comment here, you have the time not to close the page that quickly. Judging for yourself is one thing, making a public statement is another.

by ssijak 9y ago

rkangel 9y ago

The main reason that Vi is the tool I use to edit config files is that I know for certain that Vi will be available on any normal Linux platform I'm dealing with - nothing to install. Any new text editor isn't going to have the benefit - Vi has a 40 year headstart. Making it easy to run it standalone, without needing loads of dependencies (and therefore without needing to be in a package manager) makes it a much more useful tool. I could just SCP it across into my home directory and run it to do my work.

cup-of-tea 9y ago

Very ignorant comment. Many people work across multiple machines (hundreds) which they do not own and cannot spend time "setting up" on each one. "Easy to install" means one can start editing with it in seconds. Do you really think compiling a local copy of emacs or vim on some strange machine counts as "easy to install"?

closeparen 9y ago
Why? I can see working on a handful of remote machines, because it's easier to set things up manually vs. set up a configuration management system at small scale. Otherwise you're editing Puppet manifests in a local text editor. What's the use case for editing files on hundreds of different machines?
ssijak 9y ago
Compiling vim? Where do you not have Vim by default? Or could not install it with the default systems package manager? I seriously did not ever login into a system that does not had vim installed, excluding windows obviously, but how many of us have windows servers to manage..
- cup-of-tea 9y ago
  I've certainly logged on to places without vim. They probably have vi, though.
  - masukomi 9y ago
    unless you're on a vax machine or something similarly ancient anything that says vi is actually vim.
    - BenjiWiebe 9y ago
      Well, it's usually a trinmed down copy of vim, right? I just do a quick alias vim=vi and carry on.

loup-vaillant 9y ago

If you have the time to comment here, you have the time not to close the page that quickly. Judging for yourself is one thing, making a public statement is another.