Agreed on the emotional. I have worked on several JSP sites that are 5 or 10 years old. In every case the JSP code is terrible. In all there was not a clear

Agreed on the emotional. I have worked on several JSP sites that are 5 or 10 years old. In every case the JSP code is terrible. In all there was not a clear understanding of the MVC model. Sure there was some MVC handwaving, but for the most part there was a lot of java code doing bits of this and that which should be in the model. Another problem is the 5 to 15 minute compile, deploy, restart the server cycle. And the nasty use of XML to integrate the half dozen frameworks which are never consistent from client to client. All of this is a huge blow to productivity.