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I think Java and its plethora of frameworks makes new developers feel overwhelmed. Python clearly has Django, Ruby clearly has Rails, Java has... what? Struts?

by rryyan 16y ago

I think Java and its plethora of frameworks makes new developers feel overwhelmed. Python clearly has Django, Ruby clearly has Rails, Java has... what? Struts? Spring? Tiles? Servlets? JSPs? Tag libraries? Where do you start? To an outsider, it feels like there is a mountain of material to wade through before you can really get going with a Java webapp; for Python and Ruby, the perceived barrier to entry is much lower.

mindcrime 16y ago
> Python clearly has Django, To be fair, the picture on Python isn't totally clear either. You can choose from Django, Pylons (my preference, btw), Turbogears and possibly others... and you have the choice between SQLAlchemy and the Django ORM, etc. Picking Python definitely does not alleviate the need to make some evaluations and decisions.