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It's not just cypherpunks and hardware hackers. We in the occult communities also very much believe in the same ideals. In fact, this saying is what this discus

It's not just cypherpunks and hardware hackers. We in the occult communities also very much believe in the same ideals. In fact, this saying is what this discussion reminded me of: Nidhogg's Rule: Recycling. There is no such place as Away, so be careful what you throw there. Recycle, give away, don't waste, find a place for it somewhere else. This includes people as well as things. http://www.northernpaganism.org/rokkatru/rokkatru-ethics.html http://www.northernpaganism.org/rokkatru/rokkatru-ethics.htm...

TeMPOraL 9y ago
You mean, like, recycling people and giving them away? :o. (Also, nitpick, but cypherpunk != cyberpunk; the former won't care about repairability of the hardware, unless you put your private key on it.)
Digit-Al 9y ago
Can't you just chuck all your rubbish into Satan's bottomless pit of despair? ;-)
dom0 9y ago
Current policy overemphasizes recycling. Recycling is the last resort. First reduce or reuse, which are far superior. Throwing away would normally not even be a serious option, but this world's people are kinda brain damaged.
- occultist_throw 9y ago
  Indeed. But I would set the blame at manufacturers at this view. The last time I got a circuit schematic was with my Icom radio. And even with that, still received none of the firmware. "Proprietary". Ideally, mechanical drawings, circuit schematics, and firmware would enable a great deal of repair and 3d party parts replacement. But the idea of allowing that isn't capitalist - in fact it goes directly against selling more to replace (planned obsolescence). I would heartily like to have a library of parts I can refer to, designs I can 3d print parts as needed, firmware access to correct issues. But this all flies in direct opposition with "commercial" opportunities, save a very few. It's also why I highly prefer free/open source hardware, with as much details how it works available. That's the only way to guarantee that your hardware doesn't get abandoned - there's always someone who has a similar problem.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

You mean, like, recycling people and giving them away? :o. (Also, nitpick, but cypherpunk != cyberpunk; the former won't care about repairability of the hardware, unless you put your private key on it.)

Digit-Al 9y ago

Can't you just chuck all your rubbish into Satan's bottomless pit of despair? ;-)

dom0 9y ago

Current policy overemphasizes recycling. Recycling is the last resort. First reduce or reuse, which are far superior. Throwing away would normally not even be a serious option, but this world's people are kinda brain damaged.

occultist_throw 9y ago
Indeed. But I would set the blame at manufacturers at this view. The last time I got a circuit schematic was with my Icom radio. And even with that, still received none of the firmware. "Proprietary". Ideally, mechanical drawings, circuit schematics, and firmware would enable a great deal of repair and 3d party parts replacement. But the idea of allowing that isn't capitalist - in fact it goes directly against selling more to replace (planned obsolescence). I would heartily like to have a library of parts I can refer to, designs I can 3d print parts as needed, firmware access to correct issues. But this all flies in direct opposition with "commercial" opportunities, save a very few. It's also why I highly prefer free/open source hardware, with as much details how it works available. That's the only way to guarantee that your hardware doesn't get abandoned - there's always someone who has a similar problem.