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If you're single without kids -- 50% easily. Perhaps someone with kids can comment.

by cellis 9y ago

liveoneggs 9y ago
you're lucky to max out your 401k
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ThrustVectoring 9y ago
People with children in SF either have locked in cheap housing due to Prop 13, make top-2% salary, or move out. Like, seriously, SF proper has half the primary-school-aged children than it should. It's not just people not having kids - SF has approximately the "right" number of infants and preschoolers. Under-appreciated fact about SF: your kid's schooling choices are either winning the school assignment lottery, having a 50 minute commute, homeschooling, or moving to a city that actually handles things sanely and has lower housing costs to boot.
danans 9y ago
If you and your partner both work full time, factor 20k+/kid/year for child care. If you later send your children to private schools, factor roughly the same rate. If instead you choose to send your kids to a public school that provides good educational opportunities, factor in either several thousand in additional local property taxes [1] or similar amounts in donations to the school PTA [2]. [1] http://www.paloaltopulse.com/2014/10/16/palo-alto-pulse-asks-how-does-school-funding-work-in-palo-alto/ http://www.paloaltopulse.com/2014/10/16/palo-alto-pulse-asks... [2] http://capta.org/pta-leaders/run-your-pta/finance/fundraising/ http://capta.org/pta-leaders/run-your-pta/finance/fundraisin...
jakelarkin 9y ago
been running this math recently: quality child care or private school is +$2k/month/child +2bdrm housing $4k food/transport/other $2k for couple with one kid you're at $8k/month post-tax or $150k/year pre-tax to break even.
tezzer 9y ago
Subsidized day care is $1900/mo for 2 kids; rent on a 3 bedroom house with a serious termite problem and an absentee landlord who doesn't care is $3300, babysitters are $20/hr if you want to go see a movie. Couples with 2 full time tech workers are fine (although they tend to not think so). I've got a spouse who works part time outside of tech and we make it work. We'll never buy a house here, and we had a landlord raise rent $1000 (33%) overnight once so you never really rest easy, but if you love your job it's a good place to be.

If you're single without kids -- 50% easily. Perhaps someone with kids can comment.

by cellis 9y ago

If you're single without kids -- 50% easily. Perhaps someone with kids can comment.

liveoneggs 9y ago

you're lucky to max out your 401k

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ThrustVectoring 9y ago

People with children in SF either have locked in cheap housing due to Prop 13, make top-2% salary, or move out. Like, seriously, SF proper has half the primary-school-aged children than it should. It's not just people not having kids - SF has approximately the "right" number of infants and preschoolers. Under-appreciated fact about SF: your kid's schooling choices are either winning the school assignment lottery, having a 50 minute commute, homeschooling, or moving to a city that actually handles things sanely and has lower housing costs to boot.

danans 9y ago

If you and your partner both work full time, factor 20k+/kid/year for child care. If you later send your children to private schools, factor roughly the same rate. If instead you choose to send your kids to a public school that provides good educational opportunities, factor in either several thousand in additional local property taxes [1] or similar amounts in donations to the school PTA [2]. [1] http://www.paloaltopulse.com/2014/10/16/palo-alto-pulse-asks-how-does-school-funding-work-in-palo-alto/ http://www.paloaltopulse.com/2014/10/16/palo-alto-pulse-asks... [2] http://capta.org/pta-leaders/run-your-pta/finance/fundraising/ http://capta.org/pta-leaders/run-your-pta/finance/fundraisin...

jakelarkin 9y ago

been running this math recently: quality child care or private school is +$2k/month/child +2bdrm housing $4k food/transport/other $2k for couple with one kid you're at $8k/month post-tax or $150k/year pre-tax to break even.

tezzer 9y ago

Subsidized day care is $1900/mo for 2 kids; rent on a 3 bedroom house with a serious termite problem and an absentee landlord who doesn't care is $3300, babysitters are $20/hr if you want to go see a movie. Couples with 2 full time tech workers are fine (although they tend to not think so). I've got a spouse who works part time outside of tech and we make it work. We'll never buy a house here, and we had a landlord raise rent $1000 (33%) overnight once so you never really rest easy, but if you love your job it's a good place to be.