re: Apache, I don't believe that most people understand the scope of the current Apache Foundation. From a recent members meeting: Projects: 84 Incubating:

re: Apache, I don't believe that most people understand the scope of the current Apache Foundation. From a recent members meeting: Projects: 84 Incubating: 36 Labs: 30 Committers: 2359 Members: 298 iCLAs on file: 3583 SVN Revisions: r962795 While some of those 84 Top Level Projects aren't well known, many of them are the standard implementation used in their respective places -- and many of them have strong communities years after their project started. I think Apache is important in this sense, because its building up new projects with similar community expectations, rather than just being held up as a 'good way' to do things.