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"The market for a piece of paper is way too strong." Penguin, PwC and EY have already dropped university degrees as a requirement. "The move comes just months

"The market for a piece of paper is way too strong." Penguin, PwC and EY have already dropped university degrees as a requirement. "The move comes just months after accountancy firm Ernst & Young, one of Britain’s biggest graduate recruiters, made a similar announcement, saying in August that it would no longer consider degree or A-level results when assessing potential employees" https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jan/18/penguin-ditches-the-need-for-job-seekers-to-have-university-degrees https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jan/18/penguin-ditche... "It found no evidence to conclude that previous success in higher education correlated with future success in subsequent professional qualifications undertaken." http://www.ey.com/uk/en/newsroom/news-releases/15-08-03---ey-transforms-its-recruitment-selection-process-for-graduates-undergraduates-and-school-leavers http://www.ey.com/uk/en/newsroom/news-releases/15-08-03---ey... Also related "Goldman last year also made other moves to help it identify strong candidates who may not attend Ivy League schools by scrapping first round interviews on college campuses in favor of a video platform." http://www.reuters.com/article/us-goldman-sachs-hiring/goldman-to-use-personality-test-for-hiring-decisions-idUSKBN1AP2J7 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-goldman-sachs-hiring/goldm...

KekDemaga 9y ago
High school drop out here, I'm in a management/special projects position at a software company. My ability to self educate allows them to use any language, tool or framework relatively quickly without swapping out staff that have been approved for that purpose by academia. Given my short tenure in the development market in comparison to the price I command at least in my case not having formal education is actually more valuable than having one.
- _Codemonkeyism 9y ago
  I've hired dozens of managers and developers over the years and had no clue if they had a degree or were self educated. I adhered to Aaron Swartz not degrees when hiring http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/hiring http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/hiring
Boothroid 9y ago
Also plenty of good trade careers to be had - get paid while you learn, be your own boss, useful skills for your own place/life, zero debt, plenty of work (so hard to find a good tradesman). I know what I would choose if I were 16 again.

KekDemaga 9y ago

High school drop out here, I'm in a management/special projects position at a software company. My ability to self educate allows them to use any language, tool or framework relatively quickly without swapping out staff that have been approved for that purpose by academia. Given my short tenure in the development market in comparison to the price I command at least in my case not having formal education is actually more valuable than having one.

_Codemonkeyism 9y ago
I've hired dozens of managers and developers over the years and had no clue if they had a degree or were self educated. I adhered to Aaron Swartz not degrees when hiring http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/hiring http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/hiring

Boothroid 9y ago

Also plenty of good trade careers to be had - get paid while you learn, be your own boss, useful skills for your own place/life, zero debt, plenty of work (so hard to find a good tradesman). I know what I would choose if I were 16 again.