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> Socks laying on the floor doesn't affect people's health. You're missing the point. She mentions that the clean house isn't the goal, the clean house would "

> Socks laying on the floor doesn't affect people's health. You're missing the point. She mentions that the clean house isn't the goal, the clean house would "simply be a bonus" > complaining about her partner not telepathically reading her mind to "sense" her completely arbitrary standards She also makes the point that she has told him what she wants.

brighteyes 9y ago
> You're missing the point. She mentions that the clean house isn't the goal, the clean house would "simply be a bonus" But all she actually asked for is the clean house, that's the communication problem here.
- orthecreedence 9y ago
  No, she asked for a cleaning service. Not a clean house.
  - CaptSpify 9y ago
    > For Mother's Day I asked for one thing: a house cleaning service. I don't see her quoting what she told her husband, so we only have her summary to go off of. I think the details would be important here.
    - ZenoArrow 9y ago
      Her instructions are clearly clear enough to her husband, who makes one call to a cleaning service before Mother's day.
philh 9y ago
> The real gift I wanted was to be relieved of the emotional labor of a single task that had been nagging at the back of my mind. The clean house would simply be a bonus. The clean house is presumably a goal, here. Otherwise, the obvious solution is not to clean the house. (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having the clean house as a goal. But it's important to know what your goals are, so that you can decide which actions will further your goals.)
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  > "The clean house is presumably a goal, here." The goal is to reduce the mental burden of having to think about the cleaning.
  - philh 9y ago
    There is no "the goal". There are goals, plural. One goal is to have a clean house, and another goal is not to think about cleaning the house. You can achieve the second goal by deciding not to clean the house. But that doesn't satisfy the first goal.
    - ZenoArrow 9y ago
      > "There is no "the goal"." Nope, there is a clear goal. The author made it clear that a clean house was "a bonus". What do you think that suggests about what the main goal was?
      - philh 9y ago
        I don't think it makes sense to call something a bonus unless it's also a goal. I never said all goals were equal, so asking which is the main goal is irrelevant; my point is just that both goals exist as goals.

brighteyes 9y ago

> You're missing the point. She mentions that the clean house isn't the goal, the clean house would "simply be a bonus" But all she actually asked for is the clean house, that's the communication problem here.

orthecreedence 9y ago
No, she asked for a cleaning service. Not a clean house.
- CaptSpify 9y ago
  > For Mother's Day I asked for one thing: a house cleaning service. I don't see her quoting what she told her husband, so we only have her summary to go off of. I think the details would be important here.
  - ZenoArrow 9y ago
    Her instructions are clearly clear enough to her husband, who makes one call to a cleaning service before Mother's day.

philh 9y ago

> The real gift I wanted was to be relieved of the emotional labor of a single task that had been nagging at the back of my mind. The clean house would simply be a bonus. The clean house is presumably a goal, here. Otherwise, the obvious solution is not to clean the house. (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having the clean house as a goal. But it's important to know what your goals are, so that you can decide which actions will further your goals.)

ZenoArrow 9y ago
> "The clean house is presumably a goal, here." The goal is to reduce the mental burden of having to think about the cleaning.
- philh 9y ago
  There is no "the goal". There are goals, plural. One goal is to have a clean house, and another goal is not to think about cleaning the house. You can achieve the second goal by deciding not to clean the house. But that doesn't satisfy the first goal.
  - ZenoArrow 9y ago
    > "There is no "the goal"." Nope, there is a clear goal. The author made it clear that a clean house was "a bonus". What do you think that suggests about what the main goal was?
    - philh 9y ago
      I don't think it makes sense to call something a bonus unless it's also a goal. I never said all goals were equal, so asking which is the main goal is irrelevant; my point is just that both goals exist as goals.