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http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/quotation-marks.html#adjacentpunctuation http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/quotation-marks.html#adja... > Commas and period

http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/quotation-marks.html#adjacentpunctuation http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/quotation-marks.html#adja... > Commas and periods that are part of the overall sentence go inside the quotation marks, even though they aren’t part of the original quotation. I firmly refuse to go along with this nonsense. http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/em-dash.html http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/em-dash.html > The em dash is typically used without spaces on either side, and that is the style used in this guide. Most newspapers, however, set the em dash off with a single space on each side. Isn't this is US versus Britain, not "newspapers" versus "typical use"? And AFAIK it's not a "single space": it's ideally a half-space (in US style). The problem with no space is that your eyes can't easily disambiguate it from a hyphenated single word.

Harvey-Specter 9y ago
http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/british-versus-american-style.html http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/british-versus-american-s... > American style places commas and periods inside the quotation marks, even if they are not in the original material. British style (more sensibly) places unquoted periods and commas outside the quotation marks. Turns out that you (and I) prefer the British style.
mlevental 9y ago
>I firmly refuse to go along with this nonsense. here here.
- insertnickname 9y ago
  Hear, hear
  - mlevental 9y ago
    thank you
namelost 9y ago
British is an en dash separated by spaces, American is an em dash with no spaces.
- jameshart 9y ago
  And make sure to use a non-breaking space before your en-dash, so it doesn't get orphaned at the beginning of a line.
hyolaris 9y ago
Another problem with no spaces is that it is difficult to use editors, word processing software, etc. because the dash and surrounding words are treated as one thing. This came up in an editing and typesetting discussion one day. I've been convinced ever since that there should be at least a small space around em dashes.
- kbp 9y ago
  Em dashes should always be treated as a wordbreak, though; is that much software really broken regarding them? Just as a quick test with what I have installed on this computer, grep, Emacs (in fundamental-mode and text-mode) and LibreOffice Writer all recognise it as a word boundary.

Harvey-Specter 9y ago

http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/british-versus-american-style.html http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/british-versus-american-s... > American style places commas and periods inside the quotation marks, even if they are not in the original material. British style (more sensibly) places unquoted periods and commas outside the quotation marks. Turns out that you (and I) prefer the British style.

mlevental 9y ago

>I firmly refuse to go along with this nonsense. here here.

insertnickname 9y ago
Hear, hear
- mlevental 9y ago
  thank you

namelost 9y ago

British is an en dash separated by spaces, American is an em dash with no spaces.

jameshart 9y ago
And make sure to use a non-breaking space before your en-dash, so it doesn't get orphaned at the beginning of a line.

hyolaris 9y ago

Another problem with no spaces is that it is difficult to use editors, word processing software, etc. because the dash and surrounding words are treated as one thing. This came up in an editing and typesetting discussion one day. I've been convinced ever since that there should be at least a small space around em dashes.

kbp 9y ago
Em dashes should always be treated as a wordbreak, though; is that much software really broken regarding them? Just as a quick test with what I have installed on this computer, grep, Emacs (in fundamental-mode and text-mode) and LibreOffice Writer all recognise it as a word boundary.