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Given all the restrictions it sounds like the same old adaptive cruise control and lane assist that has been around for years. Actually less appealing, with all

by aedron 9y ago

Given all the restrictions it sounds like the same old adaptive cruise control and lane assist that has been around for years. Actually less appealing, with all the face monitoring and eye tracking, not to mention that it only works on 'vetted' stretches of road. Also, I wouldn't be caught dead in a car that looked like that, but that's another matter.

koolba 9y ago
> Given all the restrictions it sounds like the same old adaptive cruise control and lane assist that has been around for years. Actually less appealing, with all the face monitoring and eye tracking, not to mention that it only works on 'vetted' stretches of road. Yes that sounds like quite the restrictions. The vetted road one is interesting as in theory they could expand it with post purchase updates (or even over the air). But given that these are the same companies that would charge $250+ for a DVD of new maps for a built in GPS nagivation system ... well you get the idea. > Also, I wouldn't be caught dead in a car that looked like that, but that's another matter. It's a subjective topic but I think it looks quite nice. Seems halfway between the previous Caddy body style and a more German styling.
- maxerickson 9y ago
  The road restriction is to all limited access highways in the US and Canada. It's less of a vetting and more related to the type of driving they are willing to turn the system on for.
  - ghaff 9y ago
    I think it's more limited than that as it refers to "meticulously lidar-mapped." But no idea how limited or not that restriction is.
    - maxerickson 9y ago
      They announced it at the time, they LIDAR mapped all of the limited access roads in the US and Canada. http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/cadillac/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2017/apr/0410-supercruise.html http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/cadillac/news.detail.html/co...
gambiting 9y ago
I'd be super curious to know why exactly American cars look so unappealing to people on the other side of the pond. I find them bloated, full of plastic, tacky, tastless, the lights on front are always this elongated very unattractive shape - and yet, it must be what Americans like, since these are cars designed by them. I wouldn't be surprised if they found European cars ugly in return - Is there any study done on this? An objective look into why Americans/Europeans like what they do in cars?
- turk184 9y ago
  It's all about "design language" or something.
- kalleboo 9y ago
  I'm curious about this as well. I know it's a bit taboo to say here but I don't think the Tesla S looks very attractive either. Something about the shape and proportions that makes it look bulbous and just a bit amateurish. I'm also European and used to European design language.
  - arethuza 9y ago
    I think my first reaction of seeing a Tesla Model S was "that's a nice looking Mondeo". I actually think they are quite handsome in an understated kind of way. However, my first reaction when seeing a (white) Model X was "that's incredibly ugly". NB I am in the UK
    - namdnay 9y ago
      Does anyone find the X pretty? It's a godawful abomination of a vehicle.
      - ghaff 9y ago
        The thing that gets me about the X is this. While I know cross-overs are mostly a design statement rather than being about actually living the wild sporting life, the fact that you have something that's nominally an SUV that can't have a roof rack because of the gull wing doors strikes me as pretty silly. (Of course, EVs aren't great for lugging canoes to remote locations anyway.)
notlob 9y ago
> not to mention that it only works on 'vetted' stretches of road. To be specific GM is following the NHTSA guidelines for autonomous vehicles, which consider Operational Design Domains in the design process.
chiph 9y ago
If I had money to invest, I would put some of it into highway paint producers. All the vision systems depend on crisp high-contrast lane markings, so states will soon be under pressure to re-stripe their highways so their citizens can use their autonomous cruise equipped cars.
bischofs 9y ago
You just don't like the way it looks because its not a tesla. The CT6 is a beautiful car with nice materials and good build quality, you should take a look at it up close.

by aedron 9y ago

koolba 9y ago

> Given all the restrictions it sounds like the same old adaptive cruise control and lane assist that has been around for years. Actually less appealing, with all the face monitoring and eye tracking, not to mention that it only works on 'vetted' stretches of road. Yes that sounds like quite the restrictions. The vetted road one is interesting as in theory they could expand it with post purchase updates (or even over the air). But given that these are the same companies that would charge $250+ for a DVD of new maps for a built in GPS nagivation system ... well you get the idea. > Also, I wouldn't be caught dead in a car that looked like that, but that's another matter. It's a subjective topic but I think it looks quite nice. Seems halfway between the previous Caddy body style and a more German styling.

maxerickson 9y ago
The road restriction is to all limited access highways in the US and Canada. It's less of a vetting and more related to the type of driving they are willing to turn the system on for.
- ghaff 9y ago
  I think it's more limited than that as it refers to "meticulously lidar-mapped." But no idea how limited or not that restriction is.
  - maxerickson 9y ago
    They announced it at the time, they LIDAR mapped all of the limited access roads in the US and Canada. http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/cadillac/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2017/apr/0410-supercruise.html http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/cadillac/news.detail.html/co...

gambiting 9y ago

I'd be super curious to know why exactly American cars look so unappealing to people on the other side of the pond. I find them bloated, full of plastic, tacky, tastless, the lights on front are always this elongated very unattractive shape - and yet, it must be what Americans like, since these are cars designed by them. I wouldn't be surprised if they found European cars ugly in return - Is there any study done on this? An objective look into why Americans/Europeans like what they do in cars?

turk184 9y ago
It's all about "design language" or something.
kalleboo 9y ago
I'm curious about this as well. I know it's a bit taboo to say here but I don't think the Tesla S looks very attractive either. Something about the shape and proportions that makes it look bulbous and just a bit amateurish. I'm also European and used to European design language.
- arethuza 9y ago
  I think my first reaction of seeing a Tesla Model S was "that's a nice looking Mondeo". I actually think they are quite handsome in an understated kind of way. However, my first reaction when seeing a (white) Model X was "that's incredibly ugly". NB I am in the UK
  - namdnay 9y ago
    Does anyone find the X pretty? It's a godawful abomination of a vehicle.
    - ghaff 9y ago
      The thing that gets me about the X is this. While I know cross-overs are mostly a design statement rather than being about actually living the wild sporting life, the fact that you have something that's nominally an SUV that can't have a roof rack because of the gull wing doors strikes me as pretty silly. (Of course, EVs aren't great for lugging canoes to remote locations anyway.)

notlob 9y ago

> not to mention that it only works on 'vetted' stretches of road. To be specific GM is following the NHTSA guidelines for autonomous vehicles, which consider Operational Design Domains in the design process.

chiph 9y ago

If I had money to invest, I would put some of it into highway paint producers. All the vision systems depend on crisp high-contrast lane markings, so states will soon be under pressure to re-stripe their highways so their citizens can use their autonomous cruise equipped cars.

bischofs 9y ago

You just don't like the way it looks because its not a tesla. The CT6 is a beautiful car with nice materials and good build quality, you should take a look at it up close.