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Great, more half-baked "self-driving" that will get people killed. Use the technology where it can actually save lives, like in auto-braking systems in case of

by mtgx 9y ago

Great, more half-baked "self-driving" that will get people killed. Use the technology where it can actually save lives, like in auto-braking systems in case of accidents, and so on -- not in "autopilot" entertainment/showing-off systems where the driver is supposed to keep an eye on the road at all times anyway.

turk184 9y ago
Luddites get downvoted. Nobody likes my idea of simply owning up to the fact that better driving training is an idea that has never been tried.
noxToken 9y ago
The argument is that we are trying to remove humans from the equation. Put fully automated systems on the road that have near-perfect reaction times. The only way to get there is by boiling the frog. Technology is scary. It is even more scary when you tell someone that you're entrusting your life to automated tech. What do you do to change that? Marketing! Start by using singular feature roll out. We've seen lots of these little systems being introduced: sensors for blind spots, auto-braking, adaptive cruise-control, lane-assist, alerts for drifting out of lane, etc. Now they're telling consumers that driving is becoming automated while auto manufacturers have been slowly automating the driving process feature-by-feature for years. They're up front that it isn't unrestricted autonomy. That is, "Hey, this will keep you safe, but just in case, keep your eyes on the road. Don't worry though; these are the same features you've been using for years. " This isn't a dumb entertainment system for showing off to your friends. It's field testing for future iterations when it is 100% automated. It's genius.
0xfeba 9y ago
The self-driving tech. only has to be better than humans to save lives, year over year. And it's been introduced in auto-braking, lane keeping, and other tech. slowly. It's all part of a road map toward fully autonomous. The driver "keeping their eye on the road at all times" is just a legal requirement, since the laws are a big grey area for manufacturers, at the moment.
- ghaff 9y ago
  >laws are a big grey area for manufacturers I'm not sure they're really all that grey. They're assistive driving systems and it's the responsibility of the driver to be in full control at all times. Now, as these systems get better and more comprehensive, it's reasonable to ask whether that's a realistic expectation. But it is the law.

by mtgx 9y ago

turk184 9y ago

Luddites get downvoted. Nobody likes my idea of simply owning up to the fact that better driving training is an idea that has never been tried.

noxToken 9y ago

The argument is that we are trying to remove humans from the equation. Put fully automated systems on the road that have near-perfect reaction times. The only way to get there is by boiling the frog. Technology is scary. It is even more scary when you tell someone that you're entrusting your life to automated tech. What do you do to change that? Marketing! Start by using singular feature roll out. We've seen lots of these little systems being introduced: sensors for blind spots, auto-braking, adaptive cruise-control, lane-assist, alerts for drifting out of lane, etc. Now they're telling consumers that driving is becoming automated while auto manufacturers have been slowly automating the driving process feature-by-feature for years. They're up front that it isn't unrestricted autonomy. That is, "Hey, this will keep you safe, but just in case, keep your eyes on the road. Don't worry though; these are the same features you've been using for years. " This isn't a dumb entertainment system for showing off to your friends. It's field testing for future iterations when it is 100% automated. It's genius.

0xfeba 9y ago

The self-driving tech. only has to be better than humans to save lives, year over year. And it's been introduced in auto-braking, lane keeping, and other tech. slowly. It's all part of a road map toward fully autonomous. The driver "keeping their eye on the road at all times" is just a legal requirement, since the laws are a big grey area for manufacturers, at the moment.

ghaff 9y ago
>laws are a big grey area for manufacturers I'm not sure they're really all that grey. They're assistive driving systems and it's the responsibility of the driver to be in full control at all times. Now, as these systems get better and more comprehensive, it's reasonable to ask whether that's a realistic expectation. But it is the law.