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A man who made an empire out of institutionalizing the objectification of women is being glorified with a veneer of civil rights activism. Since when did market

by nafizh 9y ago

A man who made an empire out of institutionalizing the objectification of women is being glorified with a veneer of civil rights activism. Since when did marketing nudity become a praiseworthy thing? Or asking that is too politically incorrect these days?

revscat 9y ago
I grew up on Playboy. While I enjoyed the pictorials, I also read it. Frank Herbert, Asimov, Stephen King. And then there was the Playboy Advisor. People wrote in with questions about sex, sexuality, and relationships. To my young mind, this was both fascinating and impactful. What I took away from it was that women should be respected, treated as our equals. You can enjoy the sensuality of a beautiful woman and still be a feminist.
jfoutz 9y ago
Probably 1960 or so. Never moved on, but certainly was a force for change back in his heyday.
serf 9y ago
>Since when did marketing nudity become a praiseworthy thing? Or asking that is too politically incorrect these days? Since forever. The nude form is probably the most depicted thing in the history of human art, and artists have been paid to depict it since time immemorial. Our museums, art galleries, and cinemas are filled to the brim with depicted nudes -- of every shape and size -- celebrating the human achievement of the creation of such art. Think whatever of Hefner, but please understand that so-called 'marketing of nudity' and 'objectification of women' are entirely different concepts, and there are plenty of examples throughout human history of one without the other.
- speby 9y ago
  >Since when did marketing nudity become a praiseworthy thing? That's the beauty of nudity (and of art). You don't have to like it. No one is forcing you. What you choose to praise regarding nudity and/or art is up to you. Clearly this commenter does not view HH's work and life at all as praiseworthy. That's perfectly fine to think if you want.

by nafizh 9y ago

revscat 9y ago

I grew up on Playboy. While I enjoyed the pictorials, I also read it. Frank Herbert, Asimov, Stephen King. And then there was the Playboy Advisor. People wrote in with questions about sex, sexuality, and relationships. To my young mind, this was both fascinating and impactful. What I took away from it was that women should be respected, treated as our equals. You can enjoy the sensuality of a beautiful woman and still be a feminist.

jfoutz 9y ago

Probably 1960 or so. Never moved on, but certainly was a force for change back in his heyday.

serf 9y ago

>Since when did marketing nudity become a praiseworthy thing? Or asking that is too politically incorrect these days? Since forever. The nude form is probably the most depicted thing in the history of human art, and artists have been paid to depict it since time immemorial. Our museums, art galleries, and cinemas are filled to the brim with depicted nudes -- of every shape and size -- celebrating the human achievement of the creation of such art. Think whatever of Hefner, but please understand that so-called 'marketing of nudity' and 'objectification of women' are entirely different concepts, and there are plenty of examples throughout human history of one without the other.

speby 9y ago
>Since when did marketing nudity become a praiseworthy thing? That's the beauty of nudity (and of art). You don't have to like it. No one is forcing you. What you choose to praise regarding nudity and/or art is up to you. Clearly this commenter does not view HH's work and life at all as praiseworthy. That's perfectly fine to think if you want.