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I see 3 main reasons: 1. Environmental -- For "our children" as you call it. This assumes that countries have gov'ts that give a shit and are not totally contr

by cies 9y ago

I see 3 main reasons: 1. Environmental -- For "our children" as you call it. This assumes that countries have gov'ts that give a shit and are not totally controlled by the industry (essentially the mega shareholders) 2. Health -- Plant-based (especially whole plant food) diet is much, much healthier than the a diet that contains several serving of meat/dairy/eggs per week (many have that in a day). This is ALSO an argument for the children, as they will learn from us. (We could not tell kids to not smoke, we have to stop ourselves too!) 3. Ethical -- Whole categories of abuse towards fellow earthlings (poor, women, slaves, lower-caste, captured enemies, etc.) were generally accepted as permissible, yet are now near unanimously condemned. It is not unfathomable that animals --that are currently still being permissibly abused for being of a different species-- may get added to that list. Also the ethical reason will have a huge impact on "our children". As we have seen with the other steps we made in awareness, it is totally worth making these steps. Peace.

chiefalchemist 9y ago
I agree with all those reasons. But the majority of people don't care unless you make it personal. Making the world a better place isn't good enough, it's too abstract. You have to answer "What's in it for me?"
- cies 9y ago
  I was replying to a post roughly answering "what's in it for me" by "what's in it for your children". All wanted to show that the 3 main reasons for going vegan/plant-based all have a strong "for the children" side to them. There's a huge influx of people in the vegan/plant-based communities from very health conscious people. Many of them believe that science is showing that it allows them to live healthier/happier/longer/stronger. Is that not a good answer to "What's in it for me?" :)
  - chiefalchemist 9y ago
    Yes and no. It's all true but too deep for most people. One punch to the nose works better than 3 body blows ;)
    - cies 9y ago
      I tend to pick different strategies for the amount of time I have of someones attention. But you're advocating the one blow will be from the "personal health" angle. With little time on my hands I usually also go for this angle, simply because I believe that all the people who'd want to be vegan/vegetarian "for the animals" would be so by now. The health angle still has a kind of novelty/news aspect to it (while being more personal and urgent then the environment angle).

by cies 9y ago

chiefalchemist 9y ago

I agree with all those reasons. But the majority of people don't care unless you make it personal. Making the world a better place isn't good enough, it's too abstract. You have to answer "What's in it for me?"

cies 9y ago
I was replying to a post roughly answering "what's in it for me" by "what's in it for your children". All wanted to show that the 3 main reasons for going vegan/plant-based all have a strong "for the children" side to them. There's a huge influx of people in the vegan/plant-based communities from very health conscious people. Many of them believe that science is showing that it allows them to live healthier/happier/longer/stronger. Is that not a good answer to "What's in it for me?" :)
- chiefalchemist 9y ago
  Yes and no. It's all true but too deep for most people. One punch to the nose works better than 3 body blows ;)
  - cies 9y ago
    I tend to pick different strategies for the amount of time I have of someones attention. But you're advocating the one blow will be from the "personal health" angle. With little time on my hands I usually also go for this angle, simply because I believe that all the people who'd want to be vegan/vegetarian "for the animals" would be so by now. The health angle still has a kind of novelty/news aspect to it (while being more personal and urgent then the environment angle).