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We're not talking about Kindle devices, we're talking about Amazon Prime streaming services. Both the web and mobile apps of Amazon prime can support chromecas

We're not talking about Kindle devices, we're talking about Amazon Prime streaming services. Both the web and mobile apps of Amazon prime can support chromecast streaming, but they made the decision not to - before the play services requirement for Android.

kuschku 9y ago
Amazon's Apps are developed Kindle first. Amazon is not going to provide better functionality on Google Android than on Amazon Kindle Android. That'd cannibalize their own product. If you want Chromecast support on Android, then ask Google to make it independent of Play Services.
- bduerst 9y ago
  The android, kindle, and iOS versions of their app are developed on separate forks. The web SDK also doesn't require play services, which is why, when combined with the fact Amazon did not say play services is the reason they don't support chromecast, it's a red herring to be focused on devices and play services. Amazon made the decision to force users to use their own proprietary streaming service, and then dropped competing streaming devices from their store.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    > The android, kindle, and iOS versions of their app are developed on separate forks. Or maybe they don’t want to deliver functionality only to some users, which would lead to confusion and frustration? Have you read the threads whenever Google launches a product and only 2% of users have access? Maybe they don’t want such a shitstorm to destroy their business-customer relationship?
    - bduerst 9y ago
      And the Apple Home? Does Apple has a record of terrible customer relationships? What's more likely here - That Amazon was worried about customer relationships specifically with the companies Apple & Google, or that Amazon wanted to block competition from it's store to force users to buy Amazon's streaming products? This is also a far cry from your original assertion that Google was blocking Amazon from developing on chromecast. You seem like you have an axe to grind here - why is that?
      - kuschku 9y ago
        > This is also a far cry from your original assertion that Google was blocking Amazon from developing on chromecast. You seem like you have an axe to grind here - why is that? I bought a Chromecast. Two actually. I refuse to use Google Play Services. And guess what happened when Google made Chromecast require Google Play Services? I could throw 70€ away, because they had become useless. So I used open source reimplementations and made my own apps, but guess what? Google decided to obfuscate the protocol and change it every week to prevent that.

kuschku 9y ago

Amazon's Apps are developed Kindle first. Amazon is not going to provide better functionality on Google Android than on Amazon Kindle Android. That'd cannibalize their own product. If you want Chromecast support on Android, then ask Google to make it independent of Play Services.

bduerst 9y ago
The android, kindle, and iOS versions of their app are developed on separate forks. The web SDK also doesn't require play services, which is why, when combined with the fact Amazon did not say play services is the reason they don't support chromecast, it's a red herring to be focused on devices and play services. Amazon made the decision to force users to use their own proprietary streaming service, and then dropped competing streaming devices from their store.
- kuschku 9y ago
  > The android, kindle, and iOS versions of their app are developed on separate forks. Or maybe they don’t want to deliver functionality only to some users, which would lead to confusion and frustration? Have you read the threads whenever Google launches a product and only 2% of users have access? Maybe they don’t want such a shitstorm to destroy their business-customer relationship?
  - bduerst 9y ago
    And the Apple Home? Does Apple has a record of terrible customer relationships? What's more likely here - That Amazon was worried about customer relationships specifically with the companies Apple & Google, or that Amazon wanted to block competition from it's store to force users to buy Amazon's streaming products? This is also a far cry from your original assertion that Google was blocking Amazon from developing on chromecast. You seem like you have an axe to grind here - why is that?
    - kuschku 9y ago
      > This is also a far cry from your original assertion that Google was blocking Amazon from developing on chromecast. You seem like you have an axe to grind here - why is that? I bought a Chromecast. Two actually. I refuse to use Google Play Services. And guess what happened when Google made Chromecast require Google Play Services? I could throw 70€ away, because they had become useless. So I used open source reimplementations and made my own apps, but guess what? Google decided to obfuscate the protocol and change it every week to prevent that.