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I was thinking Balmer but I’ll take it

fhood 9y ago
I could be mistaken, but I thought Gates was the one who set the standard for hyper aggressive anti competitive tactics.
- samfisher83 9y ago
  I think Gates has rehabilitated his image a little, but he was a pretty ruthless business man. He completely destroyed Netscape using the windows monopoly.
  - KGIII 9y ago
    It's not popular to voice this, but some of Netscape's fall was due to self-inflicted wounds. In the end, they'd piled a package together called Netscaoe Communicator and it had become a bloated and buggy mess. They weren't alone in these regards, but they took it to new levels and QA was seemingly nonexistent. IIRC, even Opera went so far as to have an email client and newsgroups reader included. Netscape had both the email client and newsgroup reader, it also had a web authoring tool, conferencing software, Netcaster (which I never did figure out what it did), and a calendar. Heck, I think it even had other feature... It had all of those in what was theoretically a browser at a time when computers typically had RAM with double digit values in MB. Microsoft certainly didn't help, but I'm not sure that they really destroyed it.
    - bsharitt 9y ago
      I think the communicator thing came after Microsoft had already had Netscape in its sights. In response to Microsoft going after their browser with their monopoly, Netscape expanded their server offerings from web server to include other stuff that competed with Microsoft's BackOffice and they did Communicator to almost be a groupware suite. While Communicator may not have helped, the Netscape ship was already on fire for Microsoft attacks at that point.
      - KGIII 9y ago
        Oh, Microsoft certainly helped sink them, but I'm of the opinion that Netscape was gleefully poking holes in their ship at the same time. I never did figure out what Communicator actually was meant to do. Someone likened it to ActiveScript (I think that's what it was called, IE's proprietary scripting stuff that required hosting on Windows). I was largely an Opera user back then. I still am, but that leads to a long off-topic conversation.
    - scarface74 9y ago
      People don’t understand how badly Netscape sucked around IE3. I remember seeing an article back in the 90s talking about how badly Netscape crashed on every platform it ran on. Netscape routinely bought down my Mac at the time.
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I could be mistaken, but I thought Gates was the one who set the standard for hyper aggressive anti competitive tactics.

samfisher83 9y ago
I think Gates has rehabilitated his image a little, but he was a pretty ruthless business man. He completely destroyed Netscape using the windows monopoly.
- KGIII 9y ago
  It's not popular to voice this, but some of Netscape's fall was due to self-inflicted wounds. In the end, they'd piled a package together called Netscaoe Communicator and it had become a bloated and buggy mess. They weren't alone in these regards, but they took it to new levels and QA was seemingly nonexistent. IIRC, even Opera went so far as to have an email client and newsgroups reader included. Netscape had both the email client and newsgroup reader, it also had a web authoring tool, conferencing software, Netcaster (which I never did figure out what it did), and a calendar. Heck, I think it even had other feature... It had all of those in what was theoretically a browser at a time when computers typically had RAM with double digit values in MB. Microsoft certainly didn't help, but I'm not sure that they really destroyed it.
  - bsharitt 9y ago
    I think the communicator thing came after Microsoft had already had Netscape in its sights. In response to Microsoft going after their browser with their monopoly, Netscape expanded their server offerings from web server to include other stuff that competed with Microsoft's BackOffice and they did Communicator to almost be a groupware suite. While Communicator may not have helped, the Netscape ship was already on fire for Microsoft attacks at that point.
    - KGIII 9y ago
      Oh, Microsoft certainly helped sink them, but I'm of the opinion that Netscape was gleefully poking holes in their ship at the same time. I never did figure out what Communicator actually was meant to do. Someone likened it to ActiveScript (I think that's what it was called, IE's proprietary scripting stuff that required hosting on Windows). I was largely an Opera user back then. I still am, but that leads to a long off-topic conversation.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    People don’t understand how badly Netscape sucked around IE3. I remember seeing an article back in the 90s talking about how badly Netscape crashed on every platform it ran on. Netscape routinely bought down my Mac at the time.

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