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Well shit thats what peope don't get. You accept a shitty system that kinda works or a national system that works super well that looks like modern fascism with

• zanny 9y ago
  Since when is providing a way to identify people facism? This isn't the 18th century. Economics are global. You cannot just use the fact you've known the shopkeep your whole life as an authentication service. Either we have a good functioning way to uniquely identify people or we don't. If you have the former, you could use it for evil, in much the same way as how with the later it is used for evil a lot with the various frauds talked about in the OP. If the government wants to do evil it will do so with or without national ID, but the ability for fraudsters to do evil is dependent on there being no effective and secure universal identification. I'm going to guarantee that the NSA tracking profiles on every US citizen don't need national ID cards to pick you out of a crowd. They could build a comprehensive identity database from CCTV and store cameras whenever you buy something to build a complete and hardened profile to identify you with. They have access to way more than enough material to start branding the "undesirables" and having them carted off to gas chambers within a week. We just suffer in the meantime under this false belief that ID cards are the make or break of liberty.
  • zxcmx 9y ago
    I upvoted you and I think you made your point well, I just feel the opposite way to you. Thanks btw :) I would prefer shitty nonfunctioning systems which still allow me to use cash and buy a bowl of noodles to the alternative where I need to be more or less authorised to make that transaction. But thats just me.