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I really wanted to like Mastodon, but their "default" instance is just too restrictive on speech. It's basically a tumblrina safe space network. I'm saying this
by orthecreedence 9y ago
I really wanted to like Mastodon, but their "default" instance is just too restrictive on speech. It's basically a tumblrina safe space network. I'm saying this as a mostly-liberal, not your average OMG LIBTARDS ARE SNOWFLAKES person.
If a social network, even a federated one, wants to gain traction, it needs to be a bit more open. Yeah, nazis are obnoxious assholes, but I'd rather have a network with them on it (and just ignore them) than have to constantly worry "am I saying the 'wrong thing'??" each time I post something.
I mean, the whole point of distribution seems to be that you can say what you want and it can't get shut down. Mastodon's ideals are at odds with its goals, IMO.
- boyce 9y agoSay the flagship instance was a free speech one, what do you think would be the consequences
- matunixe 9y agoYeah GTFO nazi lover, you definitely not belong on Mastodon.
- kakarot 9y agoTook a look at your post history. It's rather negative and angry and projecting. This kind of anti-social speech is detrimental to a healty community and if you represent the average person on Mastodon then I will stay far away.
- mintplant 9y agoI have no idea what was written here before it was flag-killed, but "negative and angry and projecting" doesn't describe my experience with people on Mastodon. Very much the opposite.
- kakarot 9y agoMaybe this person was just an example of the stupidest / loudest misrepresenting the whole. I have to say it was very off-putting.
- sctb 9y agoWe've banned this account for repeatedly violating the guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- matunixe 9y agoOker
- rakoo 9y agoThen you don't understand what distribution means. If you want to use mastodon you don't have to go to the main instance, you can go to another instance that allows what you want. Theresr httsp://instances.social to help you with that. Here's the result: https://instances.social/list#lang=en&allowed=racism,hateSpeeches,harrassment&prohibited=&users=10000 https://instances.social/list#lang=en&allowed=racism,hateSpe... And if you really don't find an instance to your liking here, that means you should open one that is moderated exactly the way you want.
- kakarot 9y agoThe issue with such "free speech" instances not being the norm is that the instances which do allow "hate speech" are going to be clustered with unsavory individuals. If toleration is not encouraged at the core, it is a useless service because I don't want to spend my time in a safe-zone where I have to preface anything I say with "I don't mean to offend, but I think..." any more than I want to hang out with a group of half fascists.
- rakoo 9y agoI totally agree with you that such instances may (and probably will) be "split" from the bigger federation, but that's the whole point of distribution. At that point we'll see multiple networks, each with their own rules and tolerance, and that is how federation thrives.
- kakarot 9y agoThis is completely side-stepping my point.
- egypturnash 9y agoYou could try not having half the things that come out of your mouth be easily construed as offensive, I guess? Seriously, I'm on mastodon.social and I've never once felt a need to preface anything like that.
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- rmc 9y ago> but their "default" instance is just too restrictive on speech. It's basically a tumblrina safe space network To some people, that's a selling point! And if you don't like it, join another instance!