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I know you say "apart from the obvious 32 GB ram", but I'm gonna say it anyway. On the off chance anyone from Apple reads this, I want to signal boost that as

I know you say "apart from the obvious 32 GB ram", but I'm gonna say it anyway. On the off chance anyone from Apple reads this, I want to signal boost that as much as I can. It gets in the way daily, and as more places adopt docker (and Mac not having a native docker layer worth using), the RAM limit is stifling. A keyboard nobody complains about again. Better battery life. A return to Magsafe.

smt88 9y ago
Two questions: 1) What are you doing that requires 32 GB RAM? I assume it's for work -- what kind of products are you building? 2) Is a cloud desktop not an optional? I have a few friends who connect to powerful cloud machines from Chromebooks and Airs, and they seem to love it.
- 6nf 9y ago
  Some devs these days are using VMs extensively to develop on different projects and environments, and those devs need more RAM. Cloud desktop works iff you have a good internet connection at the time
jlgaddis 9y ago
Indeed, RAM. I have a two-year-old MBP that has 16 GB. I have an almost five-year-old ThinkPad that has had 32 GB since the day I got it. My workstation has 128 GB. Actually, I should just sell the MBP. I've probably used it two or three times -- and for maybe two hours altogether -- in the last year or so.
- milkytron 9y ago
  Just out of curiosity, what do you do with all that RAM?
Bud 9y ago
It is not, and was never Apple's choice to limit the MB Pro to 16 GB. Educate yourself: https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/ https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/
- smt88 9y ago
  "Educate yourself" is not a constructive way to disagree with someone. Also, it's absurd to suggest that Apple could do absolutely nothing about this Intel limitation if they wanted to. I'm sure it would cost them more time/energy than they'd be willing to spend on the MB Pro, but that's been the problem for Pro users for a while, hasn't it? Apple doesn't care as much about it as its users do.
- apple4ever 9y ago
  Yes it was. They could have chosen a different CPU, with less battery life. That should have been an option.
jsjohnst 9y ago
Rant to Intel. It’s an Intel limitation, not a specific choice Apple made. If you use LP DDR ram, which all power efficient laptops do (aka not just Apple), you can’t have more than 16gb ram.
- twobyfour 9y ago
  Or they could go with a slightly higher powered chipset in the already insanely thin and lightweight form factor of last year's MBPs to leave space for a bigger battery.

smt88 9y ago

Two questions: 1) What are you doing that requires 32 GB RAM? I assume it's for work -- what kind of products are you building? 2) Is a cloud desktop not an optional? I have a few friends who connect to powerful cloud machines from Chromebooks and Airs, and they seem to love it.

6nf 9y ago
Some devs these days are using VMs extensively to develop on different projects and environments, and those devs need more RAM. Cloud desktop works iff you have a good internet connection at the time

jlgaddis 9y ago

Indeed, RAM. I have a two-year-old MBP that has 16 GB. I have an almost five-year-old ThinkPad that has had 32 GB since the day I got it. My workstation has 128 GB. Actually, I should just sell the MBP. I've probably used it two or three times -- and for maybe two hours altogether -- in the last year or so.

milkytron 9y ago
Just out of curiosity, what do you do with all that RAM?

Bud 9y ago

It is not, and was never Apple's choice to limit the MB Pro to 16 GB. Educate yourself: https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/ https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/

smt88 9y ago
"Educate yourself" is not a constructive way to disagree with someone. Also, it's absurd to suggest that Apple could do absolutely nothing about this Intel limitation if they wanted to. I'm sure it would cost them more time/energy than they'd be willing to spend on the MB Pro, but that's been the problem for Pro users for a while, hasn't it? Apple doesn't care as much about it as its users do.
apple4ever 9y ago
Yes it was. They could have chosen a different CPU, with less battery life. That should have been an option.

jsjohnst 9y ago

Rant to Intel. It’s an Intel limitation, not a specific choice Apple made. If you use LP DDR ram, which all power efficient laptops do (aka not just Apple), you can’t have more than 16gb ram.

twobyfour 9y ago
Or they could go with a slightly higher powered chipset in the already insanely thin and lightweight form factor of last year's MBPs to leave space for a bigger battery.